http://www.nahrain.com/d/news/04/03/01/nhr0301c.html
مبروك للعراقيين جميعا.
Congratulations to all Iraqis..
Full Version: The transit goverment اتفاق اداره العراق
http://www.elaph.com.:9090/elaph/arabic/fr...133806070160700
In arabic.. It si really a great historical aachievement..
انه يوم عراقي عظيم!
In arabic.. It si really a great historical aachievement..
انه يوم عراقي عظيم!
It is really the greatest day in Iraq history.. Iraqiies had acheived in 11 months what they had missed in 90 years.
For first time the same table had the honour of having Iraqis to sit and sign on it!
Adter 90 years of struggel we are there the reall owner of that table , no one " Arab , british, americans" have the right to sit on it only Iraqis..
For first time the constitution say's , you must be Iraqi to sit there , no matter if you are moslim or not, no matter if you are arab or not, Shia or Sunni, Just being Iraqi.
For first time I feel that this is part of myself, As one of GC members put " This is your and you have to protect it".. I was taliking to my son who was asking why I am so pleased , I remind him of the American constitution , which he knows very well, I said it is the start of new era that Imam Husain was fighting for fifteen hundered years..
My son sked about how long we need to reach what America is reaching, I replied , all depends on you , son! We had this in your hand and it is all about how hard you would work!
For first time the same table had the honour of having Iraqis to sit and sign on it!
Adter 90 years of struggel we are there the reall owner of that table , no one " Arab , british, americans" have the right to sit on it only Iraqis..
For first time the constitution say's , you must be Iraqi to sit there , no matter if you are moslim or not, no matter if you are arab or not, Shia or Sunni, Just being Iraqi.
For first time I feel that this is part of myself, As one of GC members put " This is your and you have to protect it".. I was taliking to my son who was asking why I am so pleased , I remind him of the American constitution , which he knows very well, I said it is the start of new era that Imam Husain was fighting for fifteen hundered years..
My son sked about how long we need to reach what America is reaching, I replied , all depends on you , son! We had this in your hand and it is all about how hard you would work!
Some thing to remember:
1- This was a pure Iraqi effort.. Lebaies heed to go to Taef/Suadi in order to get together.. Afghanees need ed help from international community to get it in Germany.. Iraqis neeed de only the protection by great American friends to get it in Baghdad.
2- The item that said " The presidency team would be ellected in group" .. That is really a fantastic one.. This means that rather than having different groups working against each other , now different groups have to work with each other to assure majorty.. Any Sunni/shia/kurd would not get ellected if they miss any ..We will see soalitions from different parties working against other coallitions from same different parties.
3- The item that said " Should be compliant with islamic firm agreed about among all moslims" That is the corner stone of preventing the Relegious Islamic governement, because this is not agreed among all moslims.
4- The controversial item that said " any three states can block the constitution if get majority of two third" I fully agree, this would make any province as important as any of the big brothers.
Tobe cont...
1- This was a pure Iraqi effort.. Lebaies heed to go to Taef/Suadi in order to get together.. Afghanees need ed help from international community to get it in Germany.. Iraqis neeed de only the protection by great American friends to get it in Baghdad.
2- The item that said " The presidency team would be ellected in group" .. That is really a fantastic one.. This means that rather than having different groups working against each other , now different groups have to work with each other to assure majorty.. Any Sunni/shia/kurd would not get ellected if they miss any ..We will see soalitions from different parties working against other coallitions from same different parties.
3- The item that said " Should be compliant with islamic firm agreed about among all moslims" That is the corner stone of preventing the Relegious Islamic governement, because this is not agreed among all moslims.
4- The controversial item that said " any three states can block the constitution if get majority of two third" I fully agree, this would make any province as important as any of the big brothers.
Tobe cont...
Commenting on the above article..
Outside ! Where? In Amman or other great Arab capitols , where the king's and prsidents don't have the power of allowing some one in the country before a waking the American president asking for permission.
30000 ! I don't know if there is such number among all American empacies around the world.. As for the bases..They should first question those in Jordon/Suadi/and Qatar..
If you are afraid that this would impact the importance of Amman/Jordan for being number one base in Arab world, let me assure you that Iraqis are way more carefull that youtr fellow Jordianians..So please be patient..
Not before they see their other " too" nationalist in Egypt/Suadi/Jordon/Qatar/Yamen/OMMAN. and later Libya doing that ..
Same which keep killing Iraqis .. Yes Iraqis need and are ancious to see actions, Ther promise that you will see ,some thing different after getting control and when there is no Americans to protect your favirot "Resisitance " folks..
With one difference , British have Arab king on the table, while Americans let Iraqis to sit on..
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The people outside the meeting hall were unconvinced that the US will really hand power to Iraqis with or without election.
Outside ! Where? In Amman or other great Arab capitols , where the king's and prsidents don't have the power of allowing some one in the country before a waking the American president asking for permission.
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They also see that the US is going ahead with constructing seven military bases and a huge embassy to house 30000 people.
30000 ! I don't know if there is such number among all American empacies around the world.. As for the bases..They should first question those in Jordon/Suadi/and Qatar..
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There is also a plan for Baghdad to become the centre for CIA-MI6-MOSSAD combined operations in the Middle Eas
If you are afraid that this would impact the importance of Amman/Jordan for being number one base in Arab world, let me assure you that Iraqis are way more carefull that youtr fellow Jordianians..So please be patient..
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To confirm people suspicion, none of IGC members dared to addresses the issue of drafting a time-table for sending the US forces home.
Not before they see their other " too" nationalist in Egypt/Suadi/Jordon/Qatar/Yamen/OMMAN. and later Libya doing that ..
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During the last 12 hours huge explosions were heard near or in the US-established green zone in Baghdad. The Iraqis need to see actions to return Iraq to Iraqis not just words that suit Bush election campaign.
Same which keep killing Iraqis .. Yes Iraqis need and are ancious to see actions, Ther promise that you will see ,some thing different after getting control and when there is no Americans to protect your favirot "Resisitance " folks..
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Ironically, the Iraqis have been there before: During a visit to Baghdad in 1932, by British Mr Grine, a known Iraqi poet, Al-Rasafi, Wrote:
With one difference , British have Arab king on the table, while Americans let Iraqis to sit on..
http://www.elaph.com.:9090/elaph/arabic/index.html
In arabic.. The Shia members in GC clarifying their conservation on the new temporary constitution..
All about making the transition as smooth as possible..
In arabic.. The Shia members in GC clarifying their conservation on the new temporary constitution..
All about making the transition as smooth as possible..
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/government/TAL.html
The official copy.. In English
النسخه الرسميه زبالانكليزيه
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/arabic/government/TAL-arabic.html
النسخه العربيه
The official copy.. In English
النسخه الرسميه زبالانكليزيه
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/arabic/government/TAL-arabic.html
النسخه العربيه
Got this from a friend...
QUOTE
I am a big fan of Iraq.
I love it inch by inch from Zakho to al-Fao.
I love Iraq's mountains,
I love Iraq's desert,
I love Iraq's big cities and small villages,
I love Iraq's old and new music,
I love Iraq's poetry,
I love Iraqis' sarcastic sense of humor,
I love Iraq's tea shops,
in short, without Iraq, there is no me!
Born a Kurd in the breathtakingly beautiful North,
I was taught as a child to speak, read and write both of Iraq's main languages, Kurdish and Arabic.
Oh what a feeling it would be when one day I learn how to speak Assyrian and Turkish so that I could communicate with my Assyrian, Chaldean and Turkman brothers and sisters in their native language!
I love the sound of the speakers at dawn when Iraqis are called to prayer not because of my religious passion but because it is the practice of my people.
I love the bells of the Iraqi churches on Sundays not because of my Christian views or lack thereof but simply because of my Iraqiness.
You see comrades, I would like to ask of you a small favor, I want you to please look at the word IRAQ, look at it, now picture it on Ahmad Radhi's jersey,
picture at on the Atlas,
picture it in the index of every book where civilization is mentioned,
picture it at the United Nations, picture it on your passport.
Th e secret is very simple, to love Iraq and Iraqis without exception is to not think of Iraq as Saddam Hussein, as those in favor of the occupation and those opposed to it, it is not to think of it as to whom Kerkuk belongs.
But what's really beautiful about Iraq is the fact that it predates all of these things not as a piece of land through which two rivers flow, but as a civilization where the setting of the stage for all that human beings have accomplished began.
That is Iraq and we are blessed to be members of this land that has fascinated the world in its entirety.
Why am I writing this? I am writing this because I see among us a bigger sense of division than unity, I see among us more feelings of resentment than those of joy, I see among us more anger than soberness, I see among us people like fanatic Kurds and people who instead of trying to understand them or convi nce them otherwise, they attack their people as if they have a mandate from the Kurds of Iraq.
In Kerkuk, Kurdish flags (the Muhabad Republic flag, red, green and the sun in the middle) virtually crisscross city.
In response to the Kurdish obsession with their flag, the Turkmans have done the same with their flag (the party flag of the Turkman Front).
The Arabs of Kerkuk are virtually trapped in the middle of too much ethnic tensions.
They have every right to Kerkuk just as the people of Dohuk have every right to Najaf AS LONG AS their desire for residency is on the basis of their Iraqiness rather than their Kurdishness or Arabness or Shiaism or Turkomanism
(yes, I am inventing these terms because they should not exist).
Am I boring you? Well read on, there are one million Kurds living in Baghdad, that number is larger tha n the Kurds of Kerkuk, Sulaimania, Arbil and Dohuk, not combined but individually.
What does that mean? Well in a democratic Iraq, that means one million votes.
We are often deceived of hearing "the Sunni center" without considering the number of Kurds and Shi'a, not to mention Christian and Yezidi Iraqis that live in Baghdad and around Baghdad.
We hear the "Kurdish North" without looking at Musil, the second largest Arab city in Iraq after Baghdad.
We hear of the "Shi'a South" without considering the Sunni (Kurds and Arabs) that live all around the South from Basra to Hilla to Najaf to Karbala.
The bottom line is, Iraq is the land of the Iraqis, the groups that constitute our beautiful mosaic should be Iraqis before they are Kurdish, Arabic, Assyrian etc... Once an Iraqi government is established and the various Iraqi groups are given something to lose, they will naturally feel more Iraqi.
O nce we are sober and awakened, things will be different, have faith in Iraq because there is no land on earth that is more beautiful than Iraq.
I love it inch by inch from Zakho to al-Fao.
I love Iraq's mountains,
I love Iraq's desert,
I love Iraq's big cities and small villages,
I love Iraq's old and new music,
I love Iraq's poetry,
I love Iraqis' sarcastic sense of humor,
I love Iraq's tea shops,
in short, without Iraq, there is no me!
Born a Kurd in the breathtakingly beautiful North,
I was taught as a child to speak, read and write both of Iraq's main languages, Kurdish and Arabic.
Oh what a feeling it would be when one day I learn how to speak Assyrian and Turkish so that I could communicate with my Assyrian, Chaldean and Turkman brothers and sisters in their native language!
I love the sound of the speakers at dawn when Iraqis are called to prayer not because of my religious passion but because it is the practice of my people.
I love the bells of the Iraqi churches on Sundays not because of my Christian views or lack thereof but simply because of my Iraqiness.
You see comrades, I would like to ask of you a small favor, I want you to please look at the word IRAQ, look at it, now picture it on Ahmad Radhi's jersey,
picture at on the Atlas,
picture it in the index of every book where civilization is mentioned,
picture it at the United Nations, picture it on your passport.
Th e secret is very simple, to love Iraq and Iraqis without exception is to not think of Iraq as Saddam Hussein, as those in favor of the occupation and those opposed to it, it is not to think of it as to whom Kerkuk belongs.
But what's really beautiful about Iraq is the fact that it predates all of these things not as a piece of land through which two rivers flow, but as a civilization where the setting of the stage for all that human beings have accomplished began.
That is Iraq and we are blessed to be members of this land that has fascinated the world in its entirety.
Why am I writing this? I am writing this because I see among us a bigger sense of division than unity, I see among us more feelings of resentment than those of joy, I see among us more anger than soberness, I see among us people like fanatic Kurds and people who instead of trying to understand them or convi nce them otherwise, they attack their people as if they have a mandate from the Kurds of Iraq.
In Kerkuk, Kurdish flags (the Muhabad Republic flag, red, green and the sun in the middle) virtually crisscross city.
In response to the Kurdish obsession with their flag, the Turkmans have done the same with their flag (the party flag of the Turkman Front).
The Arabs of Kerkuk are virtually trapped in the middle of too much ethnic tensions.
They have every right to Kerkuk just as the people of Dohuk have every right to Najaf AS LONG AS their desire for residency is on the basis of their Iraqiness rather than their Kurdishness or Arabness or Shiaism or Turkomanism
(yes, I am inventing these terms because they should not exist).
Am I boring you? Well read on, there are one million Kurds living in Baghdad, that number is larger tha n the Kurds of Kerkuk, Sulaimania, Arbil and Dohuk, not combined but individually.
What does that mean? Well in a democratic Iraq, that means one million votes.
We are often deceived of hearing "the Sunni center" without considering the number of Kurds and Shi'a, not to mention Christian and Yezidi Iraqis that live in Baghdad and around Baghdad.
We hear the "Kurdish North" without looking at Musil, the second largest Arab city in Iraq after Baghdad.
We hear of the "Shi'a South" without considering the Sunni (Kurds and Arabs) that live all around the South from Basra to Hilla to Najaf to Karbala.
The bottom line is, Iraq is the land of the Iraqis, the groups that constitute our beautiful mosaic should be Iraqis before they are Kurdish, Arabic, Assyrian etc... Once an Iraqi government is established and the various Iraqi groups are given something to lose, they will naturally feel more Iraqi.
O nce we are sober and awakened, things will be different, have faith in Iraq because there is no land on earth that is more beautiful than Iraq.
http://www.nahrain.com/d/news/04/03/22/nhr0322f.html
In arabic.. Alsystani letter to UN. Asking not to consider the transition law in any UN resolution
اعلاه رساله السيد السستاني الى السيد الابراهيمي مطالبا الامم المتحده بعدم اضفاء الشرعيه على اتفاق الحكم الانتقالي
In arabic.. Alsystani letter to UN. Asking not to consider the transition law in any UN resolution
اعلاه رساله السيد السستاني الى السيد الابراهيمي مطالبا الامم المتحده بعدم اضفاء الشرعيه على اتفاق الحكم الانتقالي
النسخه المنسوبه اعلاه الى مكتب السيد في النجف تسترعي بعض الملاحظات
1- لماذا توجه رساله بهذه الاهميه الى مبعوث الامين العام كجواب على رساله وليس بشكل طلب رسمي الى الامين العام شخصيا
2- اسلوب الرساله المتشنج مع وجود اخطاء نحويه في الرساله وبما لايتناسب مع المستوى المعرفي واللغوي العالي لسماحه السيد واعضاء مكتبه.
3-ضعف الحجه وبما لايتناسب مع المبادرات اللماحه التي عرف عنها السيد خلال الفتره الماضيه فبدلا من اثاره الموضوع الاخطر المتمثل بحق الفيتو والذي كان السيد قد اعتمده كاساس للطعن "مع تحفظنا على تحفظه" , يتم الاستدلال بعدم شرعيه القانون الجديد من خلال الطعن بفقره لم تذكر اصلا في القانون.فالقانون لم يحدد طائفه او قوميه اعضاء المجلس الرئاسي انما على العكس حدد التنافس بشكل قوائم.. مما يعطي فرصه للترشيح بشكل شفاف لهيئه رئاسيه ذات خلفيه مشتركه .
4- الاستدلال حول عدم الشرعيه الى استيانات راي غير رسميه وحمله تواقيع لم يعرف حجمها الحقيقي , مما يضعف الحجه وخصوصا وان الرساله صادره "كما مفترض" من مرجعيه فقهيه وليس من جهه سياسيه.
ان احترامنا وتقديرنا العالي لسماحه السيد ومواقفه يجعلنا حريصين على ابداء رأينا بكل وضوح طلبا للتوضيح
1- لماذا توجه رساله بهذه الاهميه الى مبعوث الامين العام كجواب على رساله وليس بشكل طلب رسمي الى الامين العام شخصيا
2- اسلوب الرساله المتشنج مع وجود اخطاء نحويه في الرساله وبما لايتناسب مع المستوى المعرفي واللغوي العالي لسماحه السيد واعضاء مكتبه.
3-ضعف الحجه وبما لايتناسب مع المبادرات اللماحه التي عرف عنها السيد خلال الفتره الماضيه فبدلا من اثاره الموضوع الاخطر المتمثل بحق الفيتو والذي كان السيد قد اعتمده كاساس للطعن "مع تحفظنا على تحفظه" , يتم الاستدلال بعدم شرعيه القانون الجديد من خلال الطعن بفقره لم تذكر اصلا في القانون.فالقانون لم يحدد طائفه او قوميه اعضاء المجلس الرئاسي انما على العكس حدد التنافس بشكل قوائم.. مما يعطي فرصه للترشيح بشكل شفاف لهيئه رئاسيه ذات خلفيه مشتركه .
4- الاستدلال حول عدم الشرعيه الى استيانات راي غير رسميه وحمله تواقيع لم يعرف حجمها الحقيقي , مما يضعف الحجه وخصوصا وان الرساله صادره "كما مفترض" من مرجعيه فقهيه وليس من جهه سياسيه.
ان احترامنا وتقديرنا العالي لسماحه السيد ومواقفه يجعلنا حريصين على ابداء رأينا بكل وضوح طلبا للتوضيح
http://www.daralhayat.com/special/features....txt/story.html
مقال حول دور النجف الجديد.
لايخلوا من نفس طائفي يحاول فيه كاتبه التنفس في فظاء المخاوف الطائفيه..
مقال حول دور النجف الجديد.
لايخلوا من نفس طائفي يحاول فيه كاتبه التنفس في فظاء المخاوف الطائفيه..
http://www.daralhayat.com/special/features....txt/story.html
الحلقه الثانيه من المقال اعلاه
هل الكاتب يحاول ترديد اكاذيب طائفيه ؟
الحلقه الثانيه من المقال اعلاه
QUOTE
وذلك لسببين: الأول الفارق بين البيئة البدوية لسكـان النجف, والبيئة الفلاحية والزراعية لسكان كربلاء, ثم ان نسبة كبيرة من اهل كربلاء هم من اصول فارسية, وبالتالي يفضل الحجاج الايرانيون الذين يزورون المراقد الدينية قضاء معظم اوقاتهم في كربلاء.
هل الكاتب يحاول ترديد اكاذيب طائفيه ؟
QUOTE
وخلافاً لسكان مدن العتبات الأخرى ابدى الكربلائيون عدم رضاهم على فتوى السيستاني بتحريم دخول الزوار من خارج العراق الى المراقد بغير الطرق الشرعية. ويقول جعفر محمد عضو المكتب السياسي لمنظمة العمل الاسلامي: "من الخطأ ان نقفل الحدود لنمنع الزوار من القدوم الى مدن العتبات
وهل اصبحت منظمه العمل ممثلا لاهالي كربلاء. الاصح ان بعض المنتفعين من ازدهار الحركه التجاريه غير راضين عن تحديد عدد الزوار
http://www.elaph.com.:9090/elaph/arabic/fr...919048001990100
مقابله صحفيه مع الجعفري.. وجه العراق الجديد
مقابله صحفيه مع الجعفري.. وجه العراق الجديد
A Notable Quote;
“There are among us a great mass of people who have been reared for generations under a government of tyranny and oppression. It is ingrained in their blood that there is no other form of government. They are disposed and inclined to think our institutions partake of the same nature as these they have left behind. We know they are wrong. They must be shown they are wrong.”
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Now pause and read these next four sentences aloud. They are as powerful as any four sentences that have been uttered so far in the year 2004:
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Another Quote;
“There is a just government. There are righteous laws. We know the formula by which they are produced. The principle is best stated in the immortal Declaration of Independence to be "the consent of the governed."”
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The Quoted words above are from an American President, Calvin Coolidge, spoken on Nov 1, 1919 when addressing the aftermath of WWI, …
It succinctly applies to Iraq and all Iraqi’s future today.
Good government cannot be bought, it has to be given. Government has great opportunities for doing wrong, but equal chance for doing right. The USA cannot buy your freedom and prosperity by giving your country $$ to rebuild and sacrificing our own precious youth ... the future is always in your own hands. Do not bite the hand that would help you succeed in being free and prosperous.
Are Iraqis up to the challenge?
“There are among us a great mass of people who have been reared for generations under a government of tyranny and oppression. It is ingrained in their blood that there is no other form of government. They are disposed and inclined to think our institutions partake of the same nature as these they have left behind. We know they are wrong. They must be shown they are wrong.”
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Now pause and read these next four sentences aloud. They are as powerful as any four sentences that have been uttered so far in the year 2004:
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Another Quote;
“There is a just government. There are righteous laws. We know the formula by which they are produced. The principle is best stated in the immortal Declaration of Independence to be "the consent of the governed."”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Quoted words above are from an American President, Calvin Coolidge, spoken on Nov 1, 1919 when addressing the aftermath of WWI, …
It succinctly applies to Iraq and all Iraqi’s future today.
Good government cannot be bought, it has to be given. Government has great opportunities for doing wrong, but equal chance for doing right. The USA cannot buy your freedom and prosperity by giving your country $$ to rebuild and sacrificing our own precious youth ... the future is always in your own hands. Do not bite the hand that would help you succeed in being free and prosperous.
Are Iraqis up to the challenge?
comments please
Bremer announces moves to reinstate some former Baathist members
Fri Apr 23, 4:26 PM ET
(from Yahoo News)
BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US civil administrator in Iraq Paul Bremer announced steps to reinstate some former members of Saddam Hussein's disbanded Baath party in the new army, as well as in schools and universities.
Bremer made the announcement in a rare televised address to the nation that appeared aimed at rallying Iraqi support as the US-led coalition battles a dogged insurgency by both Sunni and Shiite Muslim militants.
Amid mounting concern over the poor performance of Iraqi security forces during recent attacks, the US overseer said more former members of Saddam's military would be allowed to join the ranks of the new army.
He also announced measures to speed up the reinstatement of thousands of teachers who lost their jobs because they were once Baathists, even though they were often forced to join the former dictator's party.
Bremer has come under fire for disbanding Saddam's former army in March last year to form new US-trained security forces whose performance the top US military brass says has fallen far short of expectations.
Bremer said interim defense minister Ali Allawi planned to meet "with vetted senior officers from the former regime next week to discuss how best to build the new Iraqi military establishment.
"More of these officers with honorable records -- from the former army and elsewhere -- will serve in the months ahead as your new army grows."
"Over 70 percent of all the men in the Iraqi army and (the para-military) Iraqi Civil Defense Corps served honorably in the former army," said Bremer.
He pointed out that the first three generals of the new Iraqi army were appointed on Sunday.
As the coalition struggles to rebuild a country shattered by years of war and mismanagement, the "debaathification" policy, which Bremer admitted was at times "unjust", has also left Iraq with an acute shortage of teachers.
The debaathification of Iraq was the first measure signed Bremer signed last May, just after the fall of Baghdad.
He did so under pressure from Ahmad Chalabi, a Pentagon favorite and head of the Iraqi National Congress who became head of the debaathification commission.
The order dissolved the Baath party and excluded from government former members of the top layers of the Baath party's hierarchy.
Reacting to Friday's move by Bremer, Chalabi said on the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya news channel: "The rehabilitation of Baathists threatens democracy."
But coalition spokesman Dan Senor insisted the move was not a departure from policy that bars former top Baath party members from taking senior government or military positions.
He said the plan had been all along to recruit senior officers after lower-ranked soldiers. All need to be cleared to ensure they were not involved in torture or other crimes the Saddam regime has been accused of, he said.
Senor also insisted that speeding up the rehiring of teachers did not constitute a change of policy either.
Bremer said "the debaathification policy was and is sound," but he conceded that numerous complaints it had been applied "unevenly and unjustly" were legitimate.
He announced that any teacher cleared by local committees but not yet at local level, could return to work, or receive their pensions immediately, and that pending appeals will be adjudicated within 20 days.
Earlier this month, visiting special UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi criticized the manner in which the policy was being implemented, saying thousands of teachers, university professors, doctors and other sorely-needed personnel had been dismissed and the appeals process was painfully slow.
Some 30,000 civil servants have already been purged from government and another 30,000 are expected to be excluded at the end of the process, according to the national debaathification commission.
To date, of 7,000 appeals filed, at least 800 have been processed and only a dozen rejected, according to Mithal Al-Alusi, one of the officials who run the debaathification commission.
Bremer announces moves to reinstate some former Baathist members
Fri Apr 23, 4:26 PM ET
(from Yahoo News)
BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US civil administrator in Iraq Paul Bremer announced steps to reinstate some former members of Saddam Hussein's disbanded Baath party in the new army, as well as in schools and universities.
Bremer made the announcement in a rare televised address to the nation that appeared aimed at rallying Iraqi support as the US-led coalition battles a dogged insurgency by both Sunni and Shiite Muslim militants.
Amid mounting concern over the poor performance of Iraqi security forces during recent attacks, the US overseer said more former members of Saddam's military would be allowed to join the ranks of the new army.
He also announced measures to speed up the reinstatement of thousands of teachers who lost their jobs because they were once Baathists, even though they were often forced to join the former dictator's party.
Bremer has come under fire for disbanding Saddam's former army in March last year to form new US-trained security forces whose performance the top US military brass says has fallen far short of expectations.
Bremer said interim defense minister Ali Allawi planned to meet "with vetted senior officers from the former regime next week to discuss how best to build the new Iraqi military establishment.
"More of these officers with honorable records -- from the former army and elsewhere -- will serve in the months ahead as your new army grows."
"Over 70 percent of all the men in the Iraqi army and (the para-military) Iraqi Civil Defense Corps served honorably in the former army," said Bremer.
He pointed out that the first three generals of the new Iraqi army were appointed on Sunday.
As the coalition struggles to rebuild a country shattered by years of war and mismanagement, the "debaathification" policy, which Bremer admitted was at times "unjust", has also left Iraq with an acute shortage of teachers.
The debaathification of Iraq was the first measure signed Bremer signed last May, just after the fall of Baghdad.
He did so under pressure from Ahmad Chalabi, a Pentagon favorite and head of the Iraqi National Congress who became head of the debaathification commission.
The order dissolved the Baath party and excluded from government former members of the top layers of the Baath party's hierarchy.
Reacting to Friday's move by Bremer, Chalabi said on the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya news channel: "The rehabilitation of Baathists threatens democracy."
But coalition spokesman Dan Senor insisted the move was not a departure from policy that bars former top Baath party members from taking senior government or military positions.
He said the plan had been all along to recruit senior officers after lower-ranked soldiers. All need to be cleared to ensure they were not involved in torture or other crimes the Saddam regime has been accused of, he said.
Senor also insisted that speeding up the rehiring of teachers did not constitute a change of policy either.
Bremer said "the debaathification policy was and is sound," but he conceded that numerous complaints it had been applied "unevenly and unjustly" were legitimate.
He announced that any teacher cleared by local committees but not yet at local level, could return to work, or receive their pensions immediately, and that pending appeals will be adjudicated within 20 days.
Earlier this month, visiting special UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi criticized the manner in which the policy was being implemented, saying thousands of teachers, university professors, doctors and other sorely-needed personnel had been dismissed and the appeals process was painfully slow.
Some 30,000 civil servants have already been purged from government and another 30,000 are expected to be excluded at the end of the process, according to the national debaathification commission.
To date, of 7,000 appeals filed, at least 800 have been processed and only a dozen rejected, according to Mithal Al-Alusi, one of the officials who run the debaathification commission.
http://www.gil.house.gov/eline/eread1.htm
Article "Election fever" by Iraqi Dr. Hussain Al-Shahristani about election ..
Article "Election fever" by Iraqi Dr. Hussain Al-Shahristani about election ..
http://www.nahrain.com/d/news/04/05/15/nhr0515b.html
مقال ممتع حول المؤتمر التاسيس وجواد الخاصي وحارث الضاري
مقال ممتع حول المؤتمر التاسيس وجواد الخاصي وحارث الضاري
QUOTE(salim @ Mar 9 2004, 03:19 PM)
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/government/TAL.html
The official copy.. In English
النسخه الرسميه زبالانكليزيه
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/arabic/government/TAL-arabic.html
النسخه العربيه
The official copy.. In English
النسخه الرسميه زبالانكليزيه
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/arabic/government/TAL-arabic.html
النسخه العربيه
Salim, Thank you for the link to your Interim Constitution. It is a beautiful document, and a pleasure to read
.This first statement in the Preamble is particularly beautiful!
QUOTE
The people of Iraq, striving to reclaim their freedom, which was usurped by the previous tyrannical regime, rejecting violence and coercion in all their forms, and particularly when used as instruments of governance, have determined that they shall hereafter remain a free people governed under the rule of law.
God's blessings upon your people. May these great words remain true forever!
The temporary constitution looks mostly adequate to this foreigner.
275 members for the legislature is a lot.
Here is a minor quibble.
Article 12.
All Iraqis are equal in their rights without regard to gender, sect, opinion, belief, nationality, religion, or origin, and they are equal before the law.
Article 13.
© The right of free peaceable assembly and the right to join associations freely, as well as the right to form and join unions and political parties freely, in accordance with the law, shall be guaranteed.
Article 31.
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A nominee to the National Assembly must fulfill the following conditions:
(2) He shall not have been a member of the dissolved Ba’ath Party with the rank of Division Member or higher, unless exempted pursuant to the applicable legal rules.
(3) If he was once a member of the dissolved Ba’ath Party with the rank of Full Member, he shall be required to sign a document renouncing the Ba’ath Party and disavowing all of his past links with it before becoming eligible to be a candidate, as well as to swear that he no longer has any dealings or connection with Ba’ath Party organizations. If it is established in court that he lied or fabricated on this score, he shall lose his seat in the National Assembly.
It says iraqis can form and join parties, they won't be discriminated against because of belief, etc. But they are discriminated against if they were in the Ba'ath party. in each case it says "in accordance with the law". What bothers me about that precedent is that the law could be changed to discriminate against other iraqis, "in accordance with the law". Maybe it would be better not to ban people for being Ba'ath. OF course feelings are high about the bad things they did. You could put in the same restrictions based on their crimes, and in fact some of that does get done, in the exemptions. But that conflicts with Article 15A, which says you won't punish anyone for things that weren't illegal when they were done. If you follow that you'd be looking at what Saddam's laws technically said (as opposed to what his people did), and calling them criminals only for what they did that they themselves said was illegal.
My concern about this is only that it's bad to make a good principle and then state a big exception to it at the very beginning.
Other particularly interesting sections are Article 25E, Article 26, and Article 59 B&C.
It's peculiar that the prime minister is in charge of the armed forces instead of the president. But Article 59B appears to say that the iraqi armed forces will be part of the coalition forces under US command for the entire time of the interim government, so it doesn't matter in the short run.
Article 59C says that the interim government can make binding international agreements about the international force under US command. So if they say it's OK for the US to have bases there for the next 99 years, then that's law for 99 years.
275 members for the legislature is a lot.
Here is a minor quibble.
Article 12.
All Iraqis are equal in their rights without regard to gender, sect, opinion, belief, nationality, religion, or origin, and they are equal before the law.
Article 13.
© The right of free peaceable assembly and the right to join associations freely, as well as the right to form and join unions and political parties freely, in accordance with the law, shall be guaranteed.
Article 31.
(
A nominee to the National Assembly must fulfill the following conditions:(2) He shall not have been a member of the dissolved Ba’ath Party with the rank of Division Member or higher, unless exempted pursuant to the applicable legal rules.
(3) If he was once a member of the dissolved Ba’ath Party with the rank of Full Member, he shall be required to sign a document renouncing the Ba’ath Party and disavowing all of his past links with it before becoming eligible to be a candidate, as well as to swear that he no longer has any dealings or connection with Ba’ath Party organizations. If it is established in court that he lied or fabricated on this score, he shall lose his seat in the National Assembly.
It says iraqis can form and join parties, they won't be discriminated against because of belief, etc. But they are discriminated against if they were in the Ba'ath party. in each case it says "in accordance with the law". What bothers me about that precedent is that the law could be changed to discriminate against other iraqis, "in accordance with the law". Maybe it would be better not to ban people for being Ba'ath. OF course feelings are high about the bad things they did. You could put in the same restrictions based on their crimes, and in fact some of that does get done, in the exemptions. But that conflicts with Article 15A, which says you won't punish anyone for things that weren't illegal when they were done. If you follow that you'd be looking at what Saddam's laws technically said (as opposed to what his people did), and calling them criminals only for what they did that they themselves said was illegal.
My concern about this is only that it's bad to make a good principle and then state a big exception to it at the very beginning.
Other particularly interesting sections are Article 25E, Article 26, and Article 59 B&C.
It's peculiar that the prime minister is in charge of the armed forces instead of the president. But Article 59B appears to say that the iraqi armed forces will be part of the coalition forces under US command for the entire time of the interim government, so it doesn't matter in the short run.
Article 59C says that the interim government can make binding international agreements about the international force under US command. So if they say it's OK for the US to have bases there for the next 99 years, then that's law for 99 years.
http://www.alnajafnews.net/news/news.php?a...fullnews&id=396
The original copy of the letter of Ayatullah Alsystani to UN Security council.
In Arabic, here are transilation of some parts:
"Any attempts to legitimize the trastient law by mentioning it in the the new resolution would have very bad consequences"
"This law law, which was issues by a non ellected assembly should not bound an ellected one later after ellection"
The original copy of the letter of Ayatullah Alsystani to UN Security council.
In Arabic, here are transilation of some parts:
"Any attempts to legitimize the trastient law by mentioning it in the the new resolution would have very bad consequences"
"This law law, which was issues by a non ellected assembly should not bound an ellected one later after ellection"
http://www.nahrain.com/d/news/04/06/10/puk0610b.html
قرار مجلس الامن حول اعاده السياده للعراق ..مبروك لكل العراقيين. تحيه لكل الشهداء الاموات منهم والاحياء الذين ينتضرون الشهاده. اؤلئك الابطال الذين ساهموا كل من موقعه في صنع هذه النهايه السعيده.
تحيه لابطال العراق اعضاء مجلس الحكم كافه , اللذين لولا شجاعتهم في تحمل المسؤليه لانفرط عقد العراق
تحيه لكل اللذين وقفوا وساندوا .. تحيه سمو خاصه للسيد الجليل صاحب المواقف الاسطوريه في الزمن الصعب , السيد ايه الله السستاني وكل اخوانه الميامين.
تحيه للرئيس بوش الذي لولا حكمته وصبره وتحمله مسؤليه اتخاذ القرارات الشجاعه لما تحرر العراق
قرار مجلس الامن حول اعاده السياده للعراق ..مبروك لكل العراقيين. تحيه لكل الشهداء الاموات منهم والاحياء الذين ينتضرون الشهاده. اؤلئك الابطال الذين ساهموا كل من موقعه في صنع هذه النهايه السعيده.
تحيه لابطال العراق اعضاء مجلس الحكم كافه , اللذين لولا شجاعتهم في تحمل المسؤليه لانفرط عقد العراق
تحيه لكل اللذين وقفوا وساندوا .. تحيه سمو خاصه للسيد الجليل صاحب المواقف الاسطوريه في الزمن الصعب , السيد ايه الله السستاني وكل اخوانه الميامين.
تحيه للرئيس بوش الذي لولا حكمته وصبره وتحمله مسؤليه اتخاذ القرارات الشجاعه لما تحرر العراق
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