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salim
I found the below comments as very interesting.
US policy makers might need to deeply think of these good point by Amy proctor. I don't know who the writer is and of what back ground, but we might need to get out of the steriotype US main media style of thinking of bad and good , real life is a complex mix.

Shall we expect another "Sahwa "awakening ?. This time , might be by the US policy makers ! Sunii insurgents are not the only milestone, Sader and his poor gangs need to be accomodated to.


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Amy Proctor said... DANG IT! And just when CNN was starting to report on Iraq again! It's over so soon!

FYI, I want to post this bit of information from my husband, MSG Proctor, who is a subject matter expert in the Army on Religious Leader Engagements in the war (i.e., how to deal with imams, sheiks and clerics to win the war).

Moqtada al Sadr is one of the most misunderstood figures in the Iraq war.

Far from being a terrorist or even a jihadist, Sadr is a very serious Hojat al Islam (advanced student of Islam) with a most sincere approach to his religious faith. Sadr's Uncle was assassinated by Saddam in 1981 and Sadr's father, the Ayatollah Sadiq al Sadr was one of the most courageous clerics in Iraq who stood up to Saddam and was executed in 1999. Two of Moqtada's brothers were also murdered by Saddam's brutal and often godless regime.

Sadr is being completely consistent with Shia Islam is his uncompromising declaration that the Americans must leave Iraq. Sadr's Mahdi Army has defended Sadr city from Sunni insurgents and terrorists as well as provided substantial social support to impoverished Shiites.

Newsweek's sensationalist cover story is fatally flawed entertainment - not journalism. Without covering the background of the brutal and bloody oppression of Iraq's Shia by the Baath Party Saddamist machine and the catastrophic failure of America to protect Iraaq's majority Shia after the first Gulf War 1990-1991, it is impossible to understand Sadr.

Sadr, or how he is referred to by General Petraeus, Sayid Moqtada al Sadr (an honorific title acknowledging his descent from the Prophet Mohammed's family), has abandoned military operations (in all but the most necessary situations of self defense for his Shiite followers) in favor of theology. His says he now wants to fight with doctrine and scholarship. Sadr is studying in the Najaf Hawza (the massive Shiite seminary complex) to become an Ayatollah, a process that takes many years and intense scholarship efforts.

Unless one weighs in theological factors such as the Shiite belief in the 12th or "Hidden Imam" who is to return at the end of time to establish justice and brotherhood on the earth, one can only see the angry cleric with clenched fist and scowling visage. I am not a Muslim nor do I believe in Islam, but to paint such an insulting and inaccurate caricature of Sayid Moqtada al Sadr such as Newsweek's cover story will only hurt the US interests in the region.

Islam will outlive all our efforts to establish a democratic regime in Iraq, and any success by the US and Coalition partners will require a change of heart about Iraqi clerics who defacto run the country. Our own distorted and unconstitutional aversion to all things religious is backfiring on our missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Counterinsurgency requires the host nation, not the interventionists to win - on their terms, with their own cultural norms. We will never succeed in counterinsurgency operations in religious societies when we openly mock their religious leaders (and by extension, their religion). This may actually be contributing to the American body count; and wreckless American journalists may be fueling the very sincere efforts of some in Iraq to defend their belief in God.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/...at-al-sadr.html
salim
Iraq: Whither Sadr and the Mahdi Army?
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
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Ayatollah Fadhil Al-Maliki issued a fatwa in which he openly called on police and army to abandon their duty, adding that operation Knights' Charge is not targeting criminals but an aggression against "the majority of the Iraqi people." Although there is news about a handful of soldiers and policemen abandoning their posts and joining the militia, this fatwa is not going to have a significant effect on operations. However it's a reminder that there are still people who bet on fatwas as long as some are willing to offer allegiance to the sect instead of the country.


The article by Omar might expose the extent of complexity of Iraq situation and so the ignorance by some who claim close watching up. First of all Fadhil Almaliki is a preacher " rawzakhoon" and not a sholar "ayatoulah", so no way he can issue a fatwa.He has absolutely of no religouse influence by any means.
Second, he was talking from Quom-Iran to the media where he used to live over the last thirty years, he keeps to stay even after the fall of Sadam. His call is not against the Iranian, but against the classic Shia marjiea of Najaf led by Iranian born Ayatoulah Alsystani. Fadhil Almaliki is an engineer who feld the country long time a go to join the SRCI after get married to the duaghter of Ayatouls Bakir Alhakim. He is of same tribe of PM Almaliki and from same town of Tawareej.

We need to be very careful reading through bloggers.
As for Alsader, one needs to remeber that that the PM AlMaliki and his government had never claimed their mission to be against Alsadrees in Basrah. They went after corruption and criminal groups. A statement that is usually recieved in Basrah to refer to the religous parties who took control on the official positions, ports and other oil industory facilities where Sadrees has no rule as the they didn't participate in the last mincipal ellections. Almaliki, after the Sader's call is moving very fast toward other criminal gangs beloging to toher parties.. Yesterday miltary troops dismissed all police personalls working at both main ports. Also burned the small ships used by oil smugllers.. It is an operation in process.


The above article is no more than reflection to the propaganda " Alsharkia tv as example" which for some reason trying to put PM ALmaliki in front of Alsader. It had succeeded to raise the Sadrees doubts about the Basrah's campaign. It was Muqta who was really aware of that so he issued an order to raise olive branches at the beginning of the campaign then finally issued his order to remove all armed forces. A move that was greatly recieved by most Iraqis.
salim


what could be done to help decoupling poor youth and the radical stands?


Today the only way that had proven effect was to enlist them in the regular monthly pay as it was the case with Sunni insurgents through enlisting them in Sahwa .But here we have problems

1- There is no way to enlist more than one million unemployed persons.

2- Such massive employment might put the current armed forces balance in danger . Some thing that will be resisted by other political parties of all sects and races, specially competitive Shia parties to Alsaderees who currently have upper hands on the police in the south and have less popularity in the poor communities.

3- The Americans might have their restrictions too as it might not concide with their plans.

4- There is no need to have large number of them in the south as there is no real enemy to fight as the case with Qaeda in the westren parts..

However, pushing such large number of unemployed people away from their only opportunity , as most of them were ex Sadam low rank army personals, is doing nothing but to provide radical groups with more man power.

The government had some plans to hire some of the unemployed and there are programs to support small businesses. Unfortunately all of these plans are either insufficient to swallow the huge numbers or being mismanaged by the current government corruption . It ends to create a fake employment that would be worse than the unemployment itself.


I thought of the following proposal:

In Iraq today there are more than 4000 mine fields with more than 25 million mines. Such huge number of fields needs more than ten years of hard work , each mine excavation is estimated to cost 250 dollars. The question is , what if we direct that man power into such activity. Here what I found

1-training of mining personal is not a very big task. We can follow the AFRICAN example

2-there are a lot of international organizations that are ready to help but lack access to Iraq

3 such work will be of great benefit to the country specially if we put in mind that most of these fields are around the oil candidate fields. I am sure many countries like Japan are ready to give help on such project also Oil companies might be willing to have these fields cleared of mines.
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The problem of corruption within the Iraqi government might be solved by having such activity be on per mine pay and not per salary. The UN might be of great help here to manage such project.
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These fields are in the rural areas, which means that these young men will be pushed away from their local influences
7- These fields are distributed all over Iraq, so men from different backgrounds can benefit it. For example, it can accomodate the extra Sahwa personals too.
8-These fields are today a major source of immintion to the terror networks, putting them under control is of great value in fighting theses networks.

I know that such project is not an easy to bring into action, but I think we need to at least give it a shot



There is a great Chinese say: rather than condemning the dark, light a candle
salim
The official represensative of Muqtada Alsader , Shiekh Salah AlObiadee, accused Iran to collaborate with US adminstration on the long term Iraqi-US treaty.
He said in news confrence that Iran didn't show any real objection to the negotiation about this treaty.

See the official Sader web site below
http://www.alkufanews.com/news.php?readmore=905

On another front, the same speaker denied the NT's report that the Coalition Shia "mainly SIRI and Maliki's parties" legistlators are in Iran to negotiat with Mugtada on the current violance. The speaker accused some in the coalition are leaking such news to claim that Alsader is controlled by the Iranian at a time they they know that Muqtada is not in Iran.

Such remarks by alsader rep might reflects two things. On one had the main Sader's base is not happy with any close relation to Iran, so the rep was very fast in denying such report. Second is that he is trying to send strong signal to Iran that the Sadree's are not happy with Iran support to their competitors.
salim
التيار الصدري: سنمهل الاتفاق مع أميركا عامين إذا كان فيه نفع

http://sotaliraq.com/iraqnews.php?id=26750




Very interesting news, Alsader rep in Kufa_Iraq gave one of most important indication that they will support a two year withdraw plan if the government assure Iraq interests. I think with this, if turn to be real, the US-Iraqi is ready to get Iraqi Parliament. Sunnis will not block it as they have there best times with US presence, so Alsadrees are the only significan Iraqi poltical group that might bring problems..

salim
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A New Role for Iraqi Militants: Patrons of the Arts

Stephen Farrell/

The New York Times
Published: February 13, 2009



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/14/world/mi.../14baghdad.html

A very rare of its kind, a NT report covering Alaserees other face.
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