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salim
ما لفت انتباهي في خطاب بوش اعلاه هو تلاوته للايه القرانيه التي تنص على ان من قتل نفسا فقد قتل الناس جميعا واحياها فقد احيا الناس جميعا وذلك التصفيق الحاد الذي قوبل به ترديده لتلك الايه وذكر موقعها في القران وذلك في معرض دفاعه عن الاسلام وان هؤلاء النفر الضال لايمثلون الاسلام وروحه السمحه
هذا الاستشهاد اثار الكثير من وسائل الاعلام الامريكيه المعاديه لعمليه تحرير العراق
التي هاجمت الخطاب ولو لم تذكر السبب الحقيقي لمهاجمته
Texas Gentleman
A Liberal Bahraini Journalist:

'Who Hates America in the Arab and Muslim World, and Why'

Against the backdrop of the September 2005 tour of the Middle East by U.S. State Department official and presidential advisor Karen Hughes, who is heading the effort to improve the U.S.'s image abroad, in a recent article liberal Bahraini journalist 'Omran Salman presents two explanations for the hatred towards America: Arab and Muslim culture, and a post 9/11 coalition of Islamists, Pan Arab Ba'athists and nationalists, and Arab regimes. [1]
The following are excerpts from the article:


Hatred is a General Phenomenon in the Arab and Muslim World, and Not Limited to Americans

"...Hatred in the Arab and Muslim world is a general phenomenon that is not limited only to the Americans. It is possible that the Arabs and Muslims hate each other no less than they hate others...

"In the 1990s, over 200,000 citizens were killed in Algeria – most of them by extremist Islamic groups. What was the response of most of the Arabs and Muslims? A mixture of amusement and of presenting justifications for the murderers and terrorists. During those years, the Taliban movement also abused Shi'ites, Azeris, Tajikis, and other minorities, and no one did anything [to stop it].

"In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, occupied it, and expelled its residents. What was the response of the Arabs and Muslims? Nothing. On the contrary: Most Arabs and Muslims supported Saddam... And in 1991, Saddam murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Shi'ites and Kurds, and most Arabs and Muslims did not condemn it.

"These days, the Arab Janjaweed militias, which are supported by the Khartoum government, are continuing their racist campaign of annihilation against the African Muslims in Darfour.

"In Iraq, Al-Zarqawi and the terror groups affiliated with him are slaughtering Shi'ites and blowing up their mosques and their schools, after declaring war on them. In both cases, none of the Arabs or the Muslims are acting to prevent this, or even to condemn the deeds.

"In total, during a single decade alone no less than half a million Arab and Muslim victims were murdered by Arabs and Muslims.

"In addition, the religious, ethnic, and national minorities in the Arab world, such as the Shi'ites, Isma'ilis, Zaidis, Christians, and Jews, have been subject to humiliation characterized by racism...

The U.S.'s Powerful Response to 9/11 Infuriates the Extremist Muslims and Pan-Arabs as well as the Arab Governments :

"American policy in the [Arab and Muslim] region did not change essentially for over 50 years, until 2000. So what new thing happened to arouse the hatred [towards the U.S.] in its current broad scope?...

"The new element in the American-Arab-Islamic arena was the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, and the U.S. 's powerful and decisive response. This response was aimed at accomplishing three goals simultaneously.

"First, to strike a crushing blow against the Al-Qaeda organization and its allies in the Taliban movement in Afghanistan. This goal was accomplished.

"Second, to destroy the despotic regime of Saddam Hussein and of the fascist Ba'th party in Iraq. This goal too was accomplished.

"Third, to spread democracy and freedom in the Middle East. This project will continue for decades to come.

"The first blow infuriated the Islamists; the second blow infuriated the pan-Arab nationalists; and the third blow infuriated the Arab regimes.

"Gradually, an unofficial alliance emerged between these three parties, with the long-term goal to thwart the new American policy. [But] since this alliance is too weak to respond militarily to the American policy, it responds in the media and with propaganda.

"Its first goal was to distort the image of the U.S. in order to make the Arab citizens loathe everything American.

"The main means which they are using to distort the image of the U.S. are:

"1. The printed and electronic media, which are for the most part subject to the control of the Arab governments (whether via funding or via influence), beginning with Al-Jazeera in Qatar and including the national papers in Egypt.

"2. Educational programs, all of which are subject to control by the Arab governments and to the influence of the Islamic groups.

"3. The mosques, which are also subject to the control of governments and the Islamic groups, via the Ministries of Religious Endowments and Islamic Affairs in the Arab countries. Exceptions are the Shiite mosques, because the Shi'ites are usually economically independent from the governments of their countries.

"This [propaganda] machine operated at full power in order to brainwash the Arab citizens, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, in order to fan the hatred against the U.S....

"[The Islamists, the pan-Arab nationalists, and the Arab regimes] are the ones who hate America. The ordinary Arab and Muslim citizens are mere blindfolded hostages in the hands of this alliance.

"The U.S. must respond [to the hatred against it] not by appealing to the hostages and convincing them of the good things in the U.S. – because they are incapable of seeing them even if they wanted to.

"They must be helped first of all by freeing them of their [Islamist, pan-Arab, and Arab government] abductors."


[1] http://www.metransparent.com/texts/omran_s...ers_and_why.htm, October 25, 2005.
salim
المقال الذي يشير اليه تاكسمن في تعليقه اعلاه هو بالعربيه

Thanks Taxas Gentleman for that refrence ..I just refered in arabic that the article is in arabic

WHile I agree with a lot of points in the article, I feel that there is some thing missing. Some thing that i still not fully find a concrete explanation for.

The writer is pointing to a very imporatnt fact that Arabs and Muslims were showing alot of sympathy to all killers and terrorists . But i don't agree this to be due to their genitic tendency as I understood from the article.
I think Arabs and Muslims are simply living the British intelligence propaganda control.

This is not a conspirscy theory driven analogy , it is based on my personal experience following the extent of control of pro Pan Arap and Jihadist propaganda in the Arabic BBC and it's Jazera stem .
I think there is some one in the west have a big interst in fueling such shalow anti Amrerican propaganda, that of course in cooperation with Arab dictators who have their own local reasons .
I am here not giving excuses to Muslims and Arab but to hight light that they are really under huge siege of that propaganda which is not a natrul make of their own but a forced upon one ..
To my my understanding to fight that we need to start huge acadymic reaserchs that analyse the issue and give solutions..
salim
For the second time in one year Jaafree is nominated to the Pm position.
Many who were not satisfied with his performance in the first round got into immediate response.. ALtalabani was the first to show his unusual anger by putting some unexpected red lines, he also faile to congratulate Jafree for the nomination.
The problem with Jaafree is that Kurds thinks he is not clear on their demands of taking control over their fight with Sunni Arab in Kirkuk. Sunni Arab thought he is pro American, Secular Alawee think he is pro Iranian. Some SHia think he is too week with insurgent. Radical Sunni though he is to hard in supporting the Interior minister hard line on following up the Sunni terrorists.

The bottom line, he won on Abdul Mehdi by one vote . The bottom line is that the first one to congratulate him was his opponent Abdul Mehdi!
Is this Iraq or some well established democratic nation as the case in the West

Can you please say big salute to those who stand firm to make this reality.. All of them Iraqis and non Iraqi!!

Let us pray for all those who sacrified their lifes , Amin...
Article by Zelmay Khalil zada
المخطط السياسي للعراق

زلماي خليل زاد

زلماي خليل زاد هو سفير الولايات المتحدة لدى العراق

منذ اللحظة التي قررت فيها الولايات المتحدة ان تزيل نظام صدام حسين الوحشي ومساعدة العراقيين في تشكيل حكومة ممثلة للشعب، اصبحت مسألة تمكين قادة العراق من تجاوز عدم الثقة والخوف من بعضهم البعض واحدة من أهم تحدياتنا، ولم تكن هذه المهمة بالسهلة.

كان حسين ماهرا في تحريض فئة ضد اخرى لتعزيز موقعه. ومنذ سقوط صدام أبتلي العراق بالتمرد والعنف الطائفي الذي ساهم في تعميق هذه الانقسامات، وقد انعكس ذلك في الانتخابات الاخيرة التي صوت العراقيون بكثرة على أسس دينية وعرقية.

ولكن الآن العملية جارية لتسوية هذه الخلافات.حيث تم أستضافة قادة الاحزاب الفائزة على الغداء في الرابع من شباط وتضمنت المجموعة قادةكل من الشيعة العرب كرئيس الوزراء ابراهيم الجعفري، الاكراد كرئيس حكومة اقليم كردستان مسعود برزاني،والسنة العرب كالناطق الرسمي بأسم الجمعية الوطنية حاجم الحسني ورئيس جبهة التوافق العراقية عدنان الدليمي ، وكان الهدف هوالبدء بعملية تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية.

وكان النقاش مثيرا جدا. حيث ان قادة مجتمعات العراق كانوا يشعرون ويعبرون بقوة عن الالم الذي يعانيه شعبهم ما بعد مرحلة صدام الصعبة الانتقالية. وعبر العرب الشيعة عن مرارتهم حيال مئات الانفجارات والهجمات الانتحارية التي حصدت ارواح آلاف العراقيين الابرياء. وأشتكى العرب السنة ما يرونه من سوء معاملة من قوات امن الحكومة العراقية الجديدة. ان تجاوز هذه المحن لن يكون سهلا والمساومة على ادوار معينة في الحكومة الجديدة سيكون صعبا وغالبا ما تكون مثيرة للنزاع.

ومع ذلك فهذه هي الفرصة . الفضل يعود فيها بشكل جزئي لجهود التواصل التنظيمية التي بذلتها الولايات المتحدة، فقدشهد السنة تحولا" كبيرا في موقفهم حول المشاركة في حكم ما بعد صدام والذي نتج اخيرا عن مشاركتهم الكبيرة في انتخابات كانون الأول الماضي. وقد أدركوا بأن الولايات المتحدة لا تسعى الى احتلال بلدهم بشكل دائم وأقتنع العديد منهم بأن العنف المتطاول سيدمر مستقبل بلدهم.

وبناءا" على هذا الأنجاز فأن قادة العراق الآن بحاجة للوصول الى الأتفاق على اسلوب لتوحيد البلاد.

اولا،هم بحاجة لتشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية. وهذا ليس معناه تقسيم الوزارات بالكيفية التي تخدم المصالح الضيقة للمجتمع العرقي او الطائفي او السياسي للوزير، بل معناه انتقاء الوزراء من كل الفئات لبناء الجسور السياسية والذين يكونون ملتزمين بتوحيد العراق والذين اظهروا كفاءة مهنية.حيث ان تشكيل حكومة صحيحة هو اهم من تشكيلها بسرعة.

يجب على قادة العراق ايضا ان يتفقوا على عملية اتخاذ القرار والتي تعطي الاقليات السياسية الثقة بان الاغلبية ستشارك السلطة معهم وتاخذ بنظر الاعتبار مخاوفهم المشروعة. يؤمن القادة العراقيين بانه يمكن تحقيق ذلك من خلال تشكيل مجلس مؤلف من القادة العراقيين الكبار للتركيز على شؤون ذات اهمية وطنية.

يحتاج القادة المنتخبون لأن يحكموا من خلال الاعتدال وليس من خلال التطرف الفكري. وهذا يصح بشكل خاص على الشأن الامني حيث على الحكومة الجديدة ان تستمر في زيادة قدرات قوات الامن والتأكد من ان مسؤولي وزارة الدفاع والداخلية قد تم انتقاءهم على اساس الكفاءة وليس الخلفية العرقية او الطائفية. على الحكومة بالاضافة لذلك ان تبدأ عملية تسريح المليشيات عبر البلاد.

ويحتاج قادة العراق بعد ذلك ان يتفقوا على ميثاق وطني حقيقي- رؤية ومجموعة من الاحكام السياسية التي ستخلق الاستقرار والتقدم. ان الدستور الجديد اعطت المسؤولية للجمعية الوطنية الجديدة لمعالجة عدة اسئلة مهمة غير محلولة بضمنها رسم حدود لفيدرالية المناطق غير الكردية وتقسيم المسؤليات بين مستويات الحكومة المتعددة. على القادة العراقيين في هذه المفاوضات ان يصلوا الى اتفاقات التي ستفوز بدعم سني اكبر وتخلق أجماعا"ا لصالح الدستور.

على قادة العراق ايضا ان يصلوا الى صيغة للتفاهم مع المتمردين الذين يرغبون بألقاءأسلحتهم والمشاركة بالعملية السياسية وربما الانخراط في القتال ضد الارهابيين.ويرغب الكثيرون للقيام بذلك وقد ثبت ذالك من خلال الصدامات بين المتمردين والارهابيين في غربي العراق.

وعندما يبتعد المتمردين عن القتال المسلح فأنهم سيسعون الى تطمينات بأنه لن يتم السماح للقوى الاقليمية بالسيطرة على العراق، وأن القادة العراقيين سيسعون الى أقتصار اجتثات البعث على المسؤولين ذوو الرتب العالية ، والحاق جميع هؤلاء الذين لم يرتكبوا جرائم في ركب المجتمع السوي .

ويلتحق المعارضة من العرب السنة بعملية بناء عراق جديد وديمقراطي. وهذا لم يفتح الباب فقط للمتمردين ليتخلوا نهائيا عن العنف والالتحاق بالعملية السياسية من اجل استقرار العراق بل عزل الارهابيين الذين هم اعداءكل العراقيين وتهيئة الوضع لولادة عراق قوي ومستقل.

مقالة نشرت في صحيفة لوس انجلوس تايمز

الرافدين
The Israel Lobby


The Israel Lobby



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The Israel Lobby
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering support for Israel and the related effort to spread ‘democracy’ throughout the region has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world. This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries was based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives, but neither explanation can account for the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the US provides.



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There is a ray of hope, however. Although the Lobby remains a powerful force, the adverse effects of its influence are increasingly difficult to hide. Powerful states can maintain flawed policies for quite some time, but reality cannot be ignored for ever. What is needed is a candid discussion of the Lobby’s influence and a more open debate about US interests in this vital region. Israel’s well-being is one of those interests, but its continued occupation of the West Bank and its broader regional agenda are not. Open debate will expose the limits of the strategic and moral case for one-sided US support and could move the US to a position more consistent with its own national interest, with the interests of the other states in the region, and with Israel’s long-term interests as well.
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التفسير الراجح للحرب على العراق: أميركا في خدمة الأجندة الصهيونية

زين العابدين الركابي


ما هذا النحس الشامل المركب؟
صعدت المديونية الأميركية الى تسعة ترليون دولار.. وهبطت شعبية الرئيس الأميركي جورج بوش الى 36% (هوت شعبية نائبه ديك تشيني إلى18 %).. والوضع العسكري والسياسي الأميركي في العراق خانق بل قاتل.. وهذا الوضع المظلم هو الذي اضطر الإدارة الأميركية إلى التباحث والتفاهم مع إيران بهدف إيجاد مخرج ينقذ الإدارة مما هي فيه من كرب.. ومما لا ريب فيه ان ايران تدرك حاجة الإدارة الأميركية اليها ولذلك ستملي شروطها أو ترفع سقف مطالب أجندتها: وسوف تعلمون.

وفي حين كانت هذه الإدارة تمارس مغامراتها ومقامراتها: رغبة في (المجد) السياسي والحضاري والتاريخي، فإنها عوقبت بـ (الحرمان) مما ترغب فيه وتهواه وتسخر الإمكانات الأميركية الكبرى من اجل بلوغه والتمتع به.

فصورة هذه الإدارة قد شاهت، ولم تفلح ألوف الأطنان من المساحيق في تجميلها.. مثلا: أليس من المجد الذي سعت إليه هذه الادارة: ان تكون (نموذجا) اجتماعيا وسياسيا وحضاريا للشعب العراقي (كمقدمة لتعميم النموذج في المنطقة)؟.. بلى.. انها سعت الى ذلك: سرا وعلانية. بيد ان هذا النموذج قد انطفأ وشاه منذ البدء، وفي أعين الأجيال العراقية البازغة القادمة التي استهدف النموذج وعيها وأحلامها.. هل أتاكم ـ مثلا ـ نبأ ـ الغلام العراقي أسامة نبيل (10 سنوات)؟.. انه يفكر في ترك المدرسة وهجر التعليم!!.. لماذا؟.. لأن ملامحه العامة تشبه ملامح جورج بوش الابن.. وبمقتضى هذا التشابه: أخذ أقران أسامة في المدرسة يطلقون عليه اسم بوش، فامتلأ الغلام غيظا من إطلاق اسم بوش عليه. وفكر في هجر المدرسة والتعليم وقال: «ما زال أبي يحاول إقناعي بالبقاء في المدرسة، لكن إصرار زملائي في المدرسة على إطلاق اسم بوش عليّ جعلني أشعر بالحزن ففضلت العزلة، وأفكر في ترك المدرسة لأن هذا الاسم أصبح ملتصقا بي وأتمنى الخلاص منه بأية وسيلة كانت»!!

هذه صورة مصغرة من الفشل في (تحقيق المجد) من خلال الاعجاب بالنموذج، وبالقيادة التي تصنعه.

وبتكبير الصورة وتوسيعها: يكبر حجم النحس، ويتسع مداه: بشهادات أميركيين حزانى (منهم محافظون جدد):

1 ـ فرانسيس فوكوياما هو أحد أعمدة (المحافظين الجدد) وقد أسهم بحظ وافر في كتابة استراتيجية (القرن الأميركي الجديد)، أي القرن الحادي والعشرين.. هذا الرجل: أعلن براءته من المحافظين الجدد، ومن عقم أفكارهم وخطورة أفعالهم على حاضر الولايات المتحدة ومستقبلها.. يقول فوكوياما: «ان جورج بوش جعل الحرب الاستباقية أساس سياسته الخارجية، ولم يقدر تقديرا صحيحا ردود الفعل العالمية لغزو العراق، بل توقع ترحيبا عالميا بسياسة الهيمنة.. ومواقف بوش متناقضة. ففي حين تركز ادارته على دور الحكومات في اجراء تغييرات في الشرق الاوسط، يدعو ـ في الوقت نفسه ـ الى التقليل من دور الحكومة في المجتمع الأميركي.. ان الادارة الأميركية بغزوها للعراق خلقت وضعا متوحلا هو الآن قد حل محل أفغانستان كمركز جذب وأرض مثالية للتدريب، وقاعدة واسعة لعمليات المسلحين في ظل وفرة من الأهداف الأميركية التي يمكن تصويب النيران عليها.. وفي كل الاحوال يجب ان يستقيل وزير الدفاع دونالد رامسفيلد».

2 ـ هل تذكرون (أمير الظلام): المنظر الأكبر للحرب على العراق؟.. انه ريتشارد بيرل الذي قال: لا مستقبل للولايات المتحدة اذا هي تراجعت، ولم تشن الحرب على العراق.. مسعر الحرب ومجرمها الكبير هذا، قال ـ في الذكرى الثالثة لهذه الحرب ـ: «ان الحملة العسكرية على العراق وتداعياتها السياسية والأمنية لم تتم مناقشتها بطريقة سليمة داخل الادارة الأميركية، ولذلك لم نفلح في ادارة الحرب، ولا في ضبط تداعياتها».

3 ـ وليام بكلي اعلامي محافظ ـ بل متطرف في محافظته ـ وهو من اركان المحافظين الجدد في مجال الاعلام السياسي.. ماذا قال هذا الرجل بعد مرور ثلاث سنوات على الحرب على العراق.. وقد كان من النافخين في موقدها..؟.. قال: «لا يساورني أدنى شك في فشل الغرض من الحرب على العراق. لقد اثبتت هذه الحرب عدم قدرة جيش مؤلف من 130 الف جندي أميركي في احتواء الاعمال العدائية في العراق. ويتعين الآن الاقرار الواضح بالهزيمة».

4 ـ يقول الناقد الأميركي اليميني اللامع: اندرو سوليفان: «لقد تعلم العالم درسا قاسيا إلا انه، كان أشد قسوة على عشرات آلاف القتلى من العراقيين الأبرياء، بالاضافة الى مثقفين تعرضوا للاذلال.. ان الاستجابة الصحيحة لعبرة هذه المأساة الدامية ليست في المزيد من اللف والدوران، بل في الاحساس بالحزن والعار والاعلان عن ذلك. فحالة الفوضى التي يعيشها العراق حاليا تؤكد سوء التقدير الأميركي المبني على مزيج من الغرور والسذاجة».

5 ـ ولئن كانت تلك افكار وآراء (فردية، وهذا لا يقلل من قيمتها حيث ان اصحابها من قاع البئر التي يقبع فيها المحافظون الجدد)، فإن الدراسة الجماعية العلمية السياسية الاستراتيجية الموسعة الشاملة التي انجزتها مجموعة من الباحثين المتخصصين الكبار في جامعتي: هارفارد وشيكاغو.. هذه الدراسة تثبت ـ بالأدلة والقرائن والوقائع ـ (عمق الكارثة القومية) التي دفعت اليها الولايات المتحدة من خلال الحرب على العراق، وعبر سياسات أخرى مماثلة.. وهذه نقط من تلك الدراسة:

أ ـ «ان أميركيين موالين لاسرائيل ورطوا أميركا في مستنقع الحرب على العراق».. ومن قبل قال المبشر المسيحي الأميركي ديفيد بكيل: «ان اليهود يسيطرون اليوم على الولايات المتحدة بسبب ضعف الادارة، ومن خلال ذلك يسيطرون على العالم. وحرب العراق خير نموذج لذلك، فبول وولفويتز هو الذي أقنع جورج بوش بالذهاب الى الحرب بعد ان أغراه بأنه سيزيد الارباح الأميركية في مدة سنة واحدة بما يتراوح بين 50 الى 100 مليار دولار».

ب ـ «ان سياسات الولايات المتحدة في منطقة الشرق الاوسط تخدم اسرائيل ولا تخدم المصالح الأميركية الا على المدى القريب ولا على المدى البعيد».. ومن قبل قال زبغنيو بريجنسكي المفكر الأميركي الاستراتيجي الشهير: «ربطت الصحافة الأوروبية بشكل يتفوق على الصحافة الأميركية بين سياسات الإدارة الأميركية الحالية المتعلقة بمنطقة الشرق الأوسط وبين المقترحات التي قدمها العديد من أصدقاء حزب الليكود الإسرائيلي عام 1996 لرئيس الوزراء الاسرائيلي حينئذ بنيامين نتنياهو، وأصدقاء الليكود هؤلاء يشغلون الآن مواقع مؤثرة في الإدارة الحالية، وهم أنفسهم السبب في الاصرار على شن حرب على العراق».. ومن قبل قال ـ أيضا ـ الدبلوماسي الأميركي البارز ريتشارد هولبروك: «بعض أعضاء الإدارة الحالية يتصرفون بقصر نظر. فهل من العقل والضمير والأمن الدولي: أن يصبح العالم كله ضحية لحفنة «!!!» من الناس لا يكترثون باستقرار العالم، ولا تهمهم مصلحة الولايات المتحدة نفسها»؟.

ولقد نُصحت الإدارة الأميركية بالكف عن هذه الحرب العقيم من الناحيتين: التخطيطية والتنفيذية.. وهذه منظومة من النصائح الواضحة الجادة العقلانية التي كان باعثها: الحرص على مصالح أميركا وصورتها وسلامتها:

1 ـ تقدم ثلاثة عشر ألف أستاذ جامعي أميركي بمذكرة مفتوحة إلى الرئيس الأميركي جورج بوش يدعونه فيها إلى «الامتناع عن شن حرب على العراق، والى التبصر في العواقب والمآسي والتداعيات الخطرة التي تترتب على شن الحرب».

2 ـ اصدرت مجموعة من صميم عصب الحزب الجمهوري هم رجال أعمال وأصحاب شركات كبرى، بياناً قويا معارضا للحرب قالوا فيه: «أيها الرئيس. لقد ايدنا حرب الخليج، والتدخل العسكري في أفغانستان، ولكن حربك ضد العراق ليست عادلة. وحين كنت مرشحا في انتخابات عام 2000 دعمناك لأنك وعدتنا بأنك ستكون أكثر تواضعا في التعامل مع العالم. لقد منحناك أصواتنا وتبرعات شركاتنا المالية. ولكن نشعر أنك خدعتنا، ولذلك نطالبك بأن تعيد أموالنا إلينا، وان تعيد بلادنا المختطفة.. لماذا تقودنا الى وضع حتمي الفشل»؟.

3 ـ «إن الولايات المتحدة ستخسر حلفاءها في الحرب ضد الارهاب اذا شنت حربا على العراق»: برنت سكو كروفت مستشار الأمن القومي للرئيس الأميركي الأسبق جورج بوش الأب.

4 ـ شاركنا في نصح الإدارة الأميركية في هذه القضية: بدافع كراهية الحروب، وبباعث محبة الخير والسلام لنا وللأميركيين وللعالم كله. فبتاريخ 16/11/2002 كتبنا في هذا المكان نفسه.. «ان اجتناب الحرب مكسب وراحة وخير للمنطقة كلها. فالعراق جزء منها يؤذيها ما يؤذيه. ثم بسبب الحروب والقلاقل والصراعات: تعطلت التنمية، وتعثر النهوض، ومما لا ريب فيه أن حربا جديدة ستزيد البلاء، بل ستدخل المنطقة في مناخ كريه من الاضطراب والفوضى.. نعم لا مصلحة لأحد في هذه الحرب: لا مصلحة للعراق.. ولا مصلحة للعرب.. ولا مصلحة لأميركا.. ولا مصلحة للعالم.. صاحب الهوى الوحيد في هذه الحرب هو المؤسسة الصهيونية: في فلسطين والعالم».

لقد سقطت حجج (الحرب) كافة: بشهادات أميركيين وطنيين أحرار، لا يقلون وطنية عن وطنية الطبقة الحاكمة: ان لم يتفوقوا عليهم فيها.

وبسقوط الحجج والتعلات كافة: لم تبق الا حجة أو تفسير واحد هو: ان الولايات المتحدة سخرت لخدمة الأجندة الصهيونية: أو «ان اليهود الأميركيين هم المسؤولون عن دفع الولايات المتحدة الى الحرب على العراق، وان زعماء اليهود يمكنهم منع الحرب اذا ارادوا ذلك»: النائب الأميركي، جيمس مورون.

ب ـ «ان الحرب التي تنوي الولايات المتحدة شنها على العراق تندرج في مخطط إقامة اسرائيل الكبرى، وان اللوبي الصهيوني في الإدارة الأميركية هو الذي يدفع بقوة واستماتة في اتجاه الحرب» المفكر الأميركي، مايكل كولينز بايبر.

ج ـ «بالتأكيد تم دفع خطة غزو العراق بقوة على أيدي عدد من ذوي النفوذ المؤيدين لاسرائيل من شاكلة الصقور الجدد داخل الإدارة وخارجها: ريتشارد بيرل. وبول وولفويتز. ووليم كريستول وآخرون». البروفسور بول شرويدر أستاذ التاريخ بجامعة الينوي.

د ـ «المسؤولون عن الحرب على العراق هم مخططون آخرون معروفون، ولكنهم لا يخدمون المصالح الأميركية، ولا الأمن القومى الأميركي». الجنرال باستر غولسون.

طوال السنوات الخمس الماضية كنا في ذهول: أين أحرار أميركا وصفوتها الوطنية مما يجري لبلادهم؟. فجاءت (وثيقة) جامعتي: هارفارد وشيكاغو لتثبت أن في أميركا أحرارا شجعانا يرفضون أن تتلاعب الصهيونية بمصائر بلادهم، وينوّرون الرأي العام الأميركي بحقيقة صاعقة مرة وهي: ان بلادهم قد اختطفت ويجب أن تعود الى أصالتها واستقلالها ودورها الدولي المتوازن.
salim
اعتقد ان ما يطرحه الكاتب ماهو الا ترداد لاسطوانه مشروخه تعودنا على سماعها
ربما لانختلف على ان هناك مشروعا امريكيا يحكم توجه الرئيس بوش حول شن الحرب على صدام ولكن السؤال عن هل ان ما يعلن هو الحقيقه. الرئيس بوش حدد هدفين الاول اسقاط نضام صدام والثاني تثبيت دعائم نضام ديمقراطي.. واعتقد ان الهدفيين قد حققهما فعلا. منتقدي بوش وخصوصا من اعداء حريه العراقيين يخلطون الاوراق ليشيروا الى الوضع الامني المتردي . وهنا يطرح السؤال الاهم . هل ما يحصل هو احد الاهداف الغير معلنه. اذا قلنا نعم فاننا نعترف ان كل مروجي القتل من الاسلاميين والعربان والقوى الاخرى التي تشجع الارهاب هم ادوات بايدي امريكا. واذا قلنا لا فاننا نصل لنتيجه اخطر تتمثل بان كل اؤلئك هم الاعداء الحقيقيين للشعب وانهم يريدون ايقاف المسيره العراقيه

فاي الاجوبه نفضل.. سؤال لناشر المقال الذي يرى انه باتفاق مع كاتب المقال
Guest
A mortgage is basically a loan specific to the real estate market. Typically, it covers 70-90% of the purchase price of a house or other property, with the penalty for non-payment being foreclosure, or reversion of the property to the lender. They are available from most banks, credit unions, portfolio lenders and some government agencies.

Mortgage loans usually employ a 30-year repayment (or amortization) schedule. Payments are a changing combination of interest and principal, so that in the early years a payment mostly consists of interest on the outstanding principal balance, but in later years the mix becomes much more heavily weighted toward paying the principal itself. There also is private mortgage insurance to consider, which is required if less than 20% is put down on the house. It has gotten easier to actually get rid of this extra payment as soon as possible.

Learning the administrative and legal aspects of the loan process is essential for anyone considering a loan. A borrower should know what contracts and documents he or she will encounter, and how to negotiate through the paperwork. Also, it is important to be aware of what fees may be assessed and how to minimize or eliminate them wherever possible.

more about loans
Mutergem
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...79-2703,00.html

Hawkish plan to plant a puppet in Iraq
Is George W. Bush about to install a dictator in Iraq, asks Andrew Sullivan

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August 21, 2006

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This conservative caucus never liked the neocon argument for removing Saddam. They didn't like nation building and didn't believe the Iraqis were capable of democracy. They wanted to remove a perceived WMD threat, but most of all, they wanted to strike terror into the heart of their enemies by showing what US military might could do.

Depose Saddam, remove the weapons, install a client dictator and leave as much rubble behind as possible: that was the game plan. This would deter the Iranians and leave a light military footprint. The plan had Donald Rumsfeld written all over it, and it helps explain a lot about the Bush administration's dogged refusal to add more troops in the first few months after the invasion.

Rumsfeld and Cheney may well be the key proponents of this argument. It is, of course, stupid. When you are dealing with a generational struggle to defang Islamist extremism, your central weapon is winning over the moderate Muslims and Arabs. You do the reverse by bombing a country into chaos and then leaving
salim
Mutergem,
I heard a lot about a possible US retreat to the stratigic goals set by President Bush. I can't say if these reprots are based on credible resources or information but I can talk from an iraqi prospective.

It is simply rediclus to have such option, not from possibility of happening but from the desastrus implications that such move might bring to Iraq , ME and whole world. The situation today is completely different than 1991. The spirit of freedom that was planted by the occupier's calls to Iraqis was a real one.. Some might look to Iraqi frustration to the current situation and might say that they would accept any other solution even another dictator.. However the last four years gave us a very strong messages. When is come to reality, Iraqis would stand up to their freedom and would not choose other option. The last three voting processes with all threats never stopped them from send that message.

On other hand, there is no power on ground to enforce such option while local communities had already established their own arrangments that is today much more powerfull than the central governemnt. More than that we need not to underestimate the real objection to such move by Kurds and Shia.. Having Iran waiting for such conflict by Americans to these two most powerful groups , one can easily imagine the extend of damage to the American interests in Iraq and the region.. A damage that might go way beyond the implications of the foolish war by Israel generals to fight Hezbollah through demolishing Lebanese democratic government and system.

I have a strong feeling that the temporary marriage between American and Iraqi interests is going to be a "family arranged" strong one that have the call for democracy as it's housing.. No one should even think to hurt that only roof that keep every body safe..

Baathist are making a lot of noise preaching for such retreat , reminding and threatening Iraqis of what would happen to them when such retreat could happen, however I never ran into any Iraqi who even give it any serious thought.. today people are not affriad of Baathist return to power, they more affriad of the desastor that such option might bring to Iraq already wartorn infrastructure
hogan
Mutergem, don't trust those anti-democracy conspiracies theories. They have been about as reliable as the people who want to spread them.

Here is an excerpt from Bush's August 21 press conference.

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Q That's quite all right. Mr. President, I'd like to go back to Iraq. You've continually cited the elections, the new government, its progress in Iraq, and yet the violence has gotten worse in certain areas. You've had to go to Baghdad again. Is it not time for a new strategy? And if not, why not?

THE PRESIDENT: You know, Martha, you've covered the Pentagon, you know that the Pentagon is constantly adjusting tactics because they have the flexibility from the White House to do so.

Q I'm talking about strategy --

THE PRESIDENT: The strategy is to help the Iraqi people achieve their objectives and their dreams, which is a democratic society. That's the strategy. The tactics -- now, either you say, yes, its important we stay there and get it done, or we leave. We're not leaving, so long as I'm the President. That would be a huge mistake. It would send an unbelievably terrible signal to reformers across the region. It would say we've abandoned our desire to change the conditions that create terror. It would give the terrorists a safe haven from which to launch attacks. It would embolden Iran. It would embolden extremists.

No, we're not leaving. The strategic objective is to help this government succeed. That's the strategic -- and not only to help the government -- the reformers in Iraq succeed, but to help the reformers across the region succeed to fight off the elements of extremism. The tactics are which change. Now, if you say, are you going to change your strategic objective, it means you're leaving before the mission is complete. And we're not going to leave before the mission is complete. I agree with General Abizaid: We leave before the mission is done, the terrorists will follow us here.

And so we have changed tactics. Our commanders have got the flexibility necessary to change tactics on the ground, starting with Plan Baghdad. And that's when we moved troops from Mosul into Baghdad and replaced them with the Stryker Brigade, so we increased troops during this time of instability.
Mutergem
كشفت صحيفة أميركية بارزة عن ان بعثة أميركية مستقلة، شكلها الكونغرس لتقييم الوضع في العراق ووافق عليها الرئيس جورج بوش، ربما تقترح تقسيمه الى ثلاثة أقاليم تتمتع بقدر كبير من الحكم الذاتي.

فقد نقلت صحيفة التايمز ان مجموعة العمل التي يرأسها وزير الخارجية الاسبق جيمس بيكر لا تحبذ تجزئة العراق وانما تقسيمه الى ثلاثة مناطق تحتفظ كل منها بسلطات أمنية وادارية واقتصادية واسعة.

وبحسب الصحيفة ، فان من الضروري حث الحكومة العراقية على عقد مؤتمر دستوري يفتح الطريق امام نقل هذه السلطات وتوزيعها فيما سيطلب من سوريا وايران دعم وتأييد تسوية اقليمية بهذا الخصوص يتم التوصل اليها خلال مؤتمر دولي.

ولفتت التايمز الى ان بيكر اجتمع بالفعل مع ممثلين للحكومة السورية فيما يخطط للاجتماع مع مندوب ايران في مقر الامم المتحدة بنيويورك. وكان بيكر صرح بأنه يؤمن بأن العمل الدبلوماسي يستلزم التحدث مع الاصدقاء والاعداء من اجل تحقيق السلام.

لكن خبراء استراتيجيين ، ومنهم انتوني غرودسمان من مركز الدراسات الدولية والاستراتيجية في واشنطن ، يرون ان من الصعوبة بمكان تقسيم شعب يعيش ثلاثة وخمسون في المائة من تعداده في أربع محافظات ثلاثٌ منها مختلطة القوميات والمذاهب.
ويعتقد غرودسمان أن الولايات المتحدة لم تعد في موقع تحديد المستقبل النهائي للعراق لان الاوضاع السياسية الداخلية في العراق باتت تمتلك الزخم الاكبر ما يعني ان الامر يقرره العراقيون انفسهم.

Baker panel may recommend federal Iraq
WASHINGTON, Oct. 7 (UPI) -- A commission chaired by former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker may recommend a federal Iraq divided among the country's three major groups.

"The Kurds already effectively have their own area," a source close to the group told the Times of London. "The federalization of Iraq is going to take place one way or another. The challenge for the Iraqis is how to work that through."

Baker's panel was set up by Congress with President George W. Bush's approval in an effort to break out of what appears to be a dead end in Iraq, with the United States unable to create a stable regime, the newspaper said. Baker was secretary of state during the first Gulf War while Bush's father was president.

The source said the report to be released next month would favor devolving power to Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish regions with considerable autonomy. A weak central government would be involved with distribution of oil revenues, border security and foreign affairs.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?Stor...08-121513-3258r


Also have a look to the following

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2393750,00.html
Mutergem
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4CE4979...F9B9CEEC5F5.htm

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اعتبروا أن ذلك أفضل لبلادهم

ولأميركا
جنرالات وباحثون إسرائيليون يدعون إلى تقسيم العراق
Mutergem
http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_...1351wmv&ak=null

Funny interview on Aljazara.. With Iraqi politician Ayad Jamaldeen
Mutergem
Are neo-cons history?
By Jacob Weisberg

Published: March 14 2007 19:17 | Last updated: March 14 2007 19:17

The term “neo-conservative” has many usages, including “former liberal” and “Jewish conservative”. In recent years, however, it has taken on clearer definition as a philosophy of aggressive unilateralism and the attempt to impose democratic ideas on the Arab world. The neo-conservatives also constitute a distinct group around George W. Bush, the US president. They pushed for the invasion of Iraq and remain identified with hardline positions on Iran, Syria and North Korea.

Outside the administration, the chief fulcrum of neo-conservatism is the American Enterprise Institute. The day after vice-president Dick Cheney’s former aide Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury, AEI held its annual black-tie gala. I did not go expecting contrition, but under the circumstances it seemed possible that self-examination might feature on the menu. Once a lazy pasture for moderate Republicans hurtled into the private sector by Gerald Ford’s 1976 defeat, AEI has turned in recent years into a kind of Cheney family think-tank. It had not been a good week, year, or second term for any of these people and I thought a few cocktails might cause them to consider their predicament.

This was fantasy on my part. From the stage, one took no hint that matters were not working out as anticipated. All rose to salute the arrival of Mr and Mrs Cheney, herself a longtime fellow at the institute. The vice-president looked on from the head table as his friend, Bernard Lewis, perhaps the most significant intellectual influence behind the invasion of Iraq, came up to accept an award.

In his address, the 90-year-old Mr Lewis did not revisit his argument that regime change in Iraq could provide the jolt needed to modernise the Middle East. Instead, he spoke about the millennial struggle between Christianity and Islam. Mr Lewis argues that Muslims have adopted migration, along with terror, as the latest strategy in their “cosmic struggle for world domination”. This is a familiar framework from the original author of the phrase “the clash of civilisations”. What did surprise me was Mr Lewis’s denunciation of Pope John Paul II’s 2000 apology for the crusades as political correctness run amok, which drew clapping. Mr Lewis’s view is that the Muslims started the trouble by invading Europe in the eighth century; the crusades were merely a failed imitation of Muslim jihad in an endless see-saw of conquest and reconquest.

Were one to start counting ironies here, where would one stop? Here was a Jewish scholar criticising the Pope for apologising to Muslims for a holy war against Muslims, which was also a massacre of the Jews. Here were the theorists of the invasion of Iraq, many of them also Jewish, applauding the notion that the crusades were not so terrible and embracing a time horizon that makes it impossible to judge their war an error. And here was the clubhouse of the neo-conservatives, throwing itself a lavish party when the biggest question in American politics is how to escape the hole they have dug.

But whether or not the neo-cons are prepared to face it, there are increasing signs that their moment is finally over. At the Defence department, Donald Rumsfeld has been replaced by Robert Gates, a member of the Iraq Study Group and an affiliate of the realist school associated with the previous President Bush. Paul Wolfowitz, the architect who wanted to build a new Middle East on Saddam’s rubble, has been moved to the World Bank, where he observes a Robert McNamara-like silence on the failure of his war. Another former Pentagon official, Douglas Feith, is under investigation for misrepresenting intelligence data to make the case for the invasion.

At the State department, Condoleezza Rice is returning to her realist roots and now actually seems to direct policy. She has embraced shuttle diplomacy in the Israeli- Palestinian conflict, is considering conversation with Syria and Iran and even made a nuclear deal with North Korea. These steps signify a broader shift away from what the neo-con defector Francis Fukuyama calls “hard Wilsonian” ideas and back towards the less principled, more effective pragmatism of Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser, and James Baker, former secretary of state.

The most important sign of all is the fading influence of Mr Cheney, who for six years dominated foreign policy in a way no previous vice-president ever has. Mr Cheney is discredited, unwell and facing various congressional investigations. He was badly damaged by the Libby trial, which exposed his ruthless mania to justify a war gone wrong.

But the larger factor in Mr Cheney’s demise is that his neo-conservative hypotheses have been falsified by events. Invading Iraq did not catalyse a new Middle East; isolating North Korea advanced its nuclear programme; high-handed unilateralism has reduced American power. At the outset of his presidency, Mr Bush thought himself lucky to have a number two who did not aspire to his job. He may now grasp the hazard of lending so much power to someone with no incentive to test his views in the political marketplace.

As disciples of Bernard Lewis, it is unlikely Mr Cheney and the neo-con crusaders will apologise for what they have wrought. Like Mr Bush, they look to the long span of history for vindication. It will indeed be eons before anyone trusts them again.


The writer is editor of Slate.com
moron99
QUOTE(Mutergem @ Mar 15 2007, 04:33 PM) *
Are neo-cons history?
By Jacob Weisberg

Published: March 14 2007 19:17 | Last updated: March 14 2007 19:17

The term “neo-conservative” has many usages, including “former liberal” and “Jewish conservative”. In recent years, however, it has taken on clearer definition as a philosophy of aggressive unilateralism and the attempt to impose democratic ideas on the Arab world. The neo-conservatives also constitute a distinct group around George W. Bush, the US president. They pushed for the invasion of Iraq and remain identified with hardline positions on Iran, Syria and North Korea.

Outside the administration, the chief fulcrum of neo-conservatism is the American Enterprise Institute. The day after vice-president Dick Cheney’s former aide Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury, AEI held its annual black-tie gala. I did not go expecting contrition, but under the circumstances it seemed possible that self-examination might feature on the menu. Once a lazy pasture for moderate Republicans hurtled into the private sector by Gerald Ford’s 1976 defeat, AEI has turned in recent years into a kind of Cheney family think-tank. It had not been a good week, year, or second term for any of these people and I thought a few cocktails might cause them to consider their predicament.

This was fantasy on my part. From the stage, one took no hint that matters were not working out as anticipated. All rose to salute the arrival of Mr and Mrs Cheney, herself a longtime fellow at the institute. The vice-president looked on from the head table as his friend, Bernard Lewis, perhaps the most significant intellectual influence behind the invasion of Iraq, came up to accept an award.

In his address, the 90-year-old Mr Lewis did not revisit his argument that regime change in Iraq could provide the jolt needed to modernise the Middle East. Instead, he spoke about the millennial struggle between Christianity and Islam. Mr Lewis argues that Muslims have adopted migration, along with terror, as the latest strategy in their “cosmic struggle for world domination”. This is a familiar framework from the original author of the phrase “the clash of civilisations”. What did surprise me was Mr Lewis’s denunciation of Pope John Paul II’s 2000 apology for the crusades as political correctness run amok, which drew clapping. Mr Lewis’s view is that the Muslims started the trouble by invading Europe in the eighth century; the crusades were merely a failed imitation of Muslim jihad in an endless see-saw of conquest and reconquest.

Were one to start counting ironies here, where would one stop? Here was a Jewish scholar criticising the Pope for apologising to Muslims for a holy war against Muslims, which was also a massacre of the Jews. Here were the theorists of the invasion of Iraq, many of them also Jewish, applauding the notion that the crusades were not so terrible and embracing a time horizon that makes it impossible to judge their war an error. And here was the clubhouse of the neo-conservatives, throwing itself a lavish party when the biggest question in American politics is how to escape the hole they have dug.

But whether or not the neo-cons are prepared to face it, there are increasing signs that their moment is finally over. At the Defence department, Donald Rumsfeld has been replaced by Robert Gates, a member of the Iraq Study Group and an affiliate of the realist school associated with the previous President Bush. Paul Wolfowitz, the architect who wanted to build a new Middle East on Saddam’s rubble, has been moved to the World Bank, where he observes a Robert McNamara-like silence on the failure of his war. Another former Pentagon official, Douglas Feith, is under investigation for misrepresenting intelligence data to make the case for the invasion.

At the State department, Condoleezza Rice is returning to her realist roots and now actually seems to direct policy. She has embraced shuttle diplomacy in the Israeli- Palestinian conflict, is considering conversation with Syria and Iran and even made a nuclear deal with North Korea. These steps signify a broader shift away from what the neo-con defector Francis Fukuyama calls “hard Wilsonian” ideas and back towards the less principled, more effective pragmatism of Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser, and James Baker, former secretary of state.

The most important sign of all is the fading influence of Mr Cheney, who for six years dominated foreign policy in a way no previous vice-president ever has. Mr Cheney is discredited, unwell and facing various congressional investigations. He was badly damaged by the Libby trial, which exposed his ruthless mania to justify a war gone wrong.

But the larger factor in Mr Cheney’s demise is that his neo-conservative hypotheses have been falsified by events. Invading Iraq did not catalyse a new Middle East; isolating North Korea advanced its nuclear programme; high-handed unilateralism has reduced American power. At the outset of his presidency, Mr Bush thought himself lucky to have a number two who did not aspire to his job. He may now grasp the hazard of lending so much power to someone with no incentive to test his views in the political marketplace.

As disciples of Bernard Lewis, it is unlikely Mr Cheney and the neo-con crusaders will apologise for what they have wrought. Like Mr Bush, they look to the long span of history for vindication. It will indeed be eons before anyone trusts them again.


The writer is editor of Slate.com



People like this piss me off. He assumes that the people of Iraq are not capable of determining their own future. He assumes that the only way Iraq will succeed is if the great and mighty america builds it for them.

It is he who is short sighted and not the neo-cons. He wishes to proclaim a book finished when it is not even halfway written. The neo-cons never intended to write the ending of this book, only the first few chapters. It was always their intent that the nation and people of Iraq will write the rest.

Now I am not a neo-con. In fact I am a registered democrat - (the sworn enemy of neo-con). But I am not so hung up on scoring political points that I ignore the obvious. The neo-cons have always said that it was a 50 year project and that our direct involvement would be for less than ten. What exactly did he think they had in mind for the other 40?
salim
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/features...icle2329204.ece


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Ali Allawi: The Invasion
We won the war, but lost the peace. In this exclusive extract from his definitive history of the conf lict in Iraq, Ali Allawi explains how the conquering armies allowed victory to give way to anarchy
Monday, March 05, 2007

Ali Allawi
salim
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington...am/16944011.htm

Chalabi bemoans what he calls a failed occupation
By Hannah Allam
McClatchy Newspapers


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Chalabi, sipping cardamom tea in an elegantly appointed salon, absolved himself of mistakes and insisted he had no regrets. Instead, he recited a litany of missteps he blames on the Bush administration, the U.S. military and newly minted Iraqi politicians who couldn't overcome their "parochial" interests for the good of the nation.


"The war was a success," Chalabi declared, "and the occupation a failure."
salim
الطالباني: تحول تحرير العراق إلى "احتلال" جلب نتائج وخيمة إلى البلاد


Talabani , in his speach to the Arab Summit " the transform of liberation into occupation brought desasrous results"
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أنحى الرئيس العراقي جلال الطالباني خلال الكلمة التي ألقاها أمام القمة العربية في الرياض اليوم الخميس باللائمة على السياسات التي اتخذتها الإدارة المدنية الأميركية في العراق عقب سقوط نظام صدام حسين
BahirJ
BEYOND IRAQ


If war ends, threat of radical Islam will go on


Victor Davis Hanson, a senior fellow and historian at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University: Tribune Media Services

March 30, 2007

The threat from radical Islamic terrorists will not vanish when President Bush leaves office, or if funds for the Iraq war are cut off in 2008.

A frequent charge is that we are bringing terrorists to Iraq. That is true in the sense that war always brings the enemy out to the battlefield. But it's also false, because it ignores why killers like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (the late Al Qaeda chief in Iraq), Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas (Palestinian terrorists of the 1980s), and Abdul Rahman Yasin (involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) already were in Saddam Hussein's Iraq when we arrived.

Moreover, the unpopular war in Iraq did not create radical Islamists and their madrassas throughout the Middle East that today brainwash young radicals and pressure the region's monarchies, theocracies and autocracies to provide money for training and weaponry. All that radicalism had been going on for decades -- as we saw during the quarter-century of terrorism that led up to Sept. 11, 2001. And rioting, assassination and death threats over artistic expression in Europe have nothing to do with Iraq.

Right now, most Al Qaeda terrorists are being trained and equipped in the Pakistani wild lands of Waziristan to help the Taliban reclaim Afghanistan and spread jihad worldwide. These killers pay no attention to the fact that our efforts in Afghanistan are widely multilateral. They don't care that our presence there is sanctioned by NATO, or involves the United Nations, or only came as a reaction to Sept. 11.

These radical Islamists gain strength not because we "took our eye off Afghanistan" by being in Iraq, but because Pakistan's strongman, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, can't or won't do anything about Al Qaeda's bases in his country. And neither Bush nor House Speaker Nancy Pelosi quite knows how to pressure such an unpredictable nuclear military dictatorship.

The Iraq war has certainly sharpened our relationship with Iran, but, of course, it's also not the cause of our tensions with Tehran. For decades, the Iranian government has subsidized Hezbollah, which during the 1980s and 1990s murdered Americans from Saudi Arabia to Beirut. It was not the current Iranian lunatic President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad but an earlier more "moderate" president, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who remarked, in 2001, that "one bomb is enough to destroy all Israel."

So Iraq is only one recent theater, albeit a controversial one, in an ongoing global struggle. This larger conflict arose not from the Iraqi invasion of 2003, but from earlier radical Muslim rage at the modern globalized world, the profits and dislocations from Middle East oil, and Islamic terrorism that ranges worldwide from Afghanistan to Thailand.

Should a peace candidate win the American presidency in 2008, prompting the U.S. to pull out of Iraq before the democracy there is stabilized, in the short term we will save lives and money. But as the larger war continues after we withdraw, jihadists will still flock to the Sunni Triangle. Hamas and Hezbollah will still rocket Israel. Syria will still kill Lebanese reformers. Iran will still try to cheat its way to a nuclear bomb. Ayman al-Zawahiri will still broadcast his Al Qaeda threats from safety in nuclear Pakistan. The oil-rich illegitimate Gulf sheikdoms will still make secret concessions and bribe increasingly confident terrorists to leave them alone. And jihadists will still try to sneak into the United States to kill us.

Critics of the present war can make the tactical argument that it is wiser to fight Al Qaeda in Pakistan than in Iraq. Or that money spent in the frontline Iraqi offensive theater would be better invested on defense and security at home. Or that the human cost is simply too great and thus we should instead make diplomatic concessions to radical Islamists in lieu of military confrontation.

But, again, those are operational alternatives found in every war -- as familiar as the old controversies over the French defensive Maginot Line of the 1930s or the American decision to defeat Germany first, Japan second. In the case of staying on in Iraq, at least, our long-term plan is to go on the offensive to confront radical Islamic terrorists on their own turf, and try to foster a democratic alternative to theocracy or autocracy.

That may be felt by the American public to be too expensive or too naive, but it is a direct strategy aimed at an enemy who seeks to terrorize the West and plans on being around well after 2008.

Depending on how we leave Iraq, this global war against radical Islamic terrorism will either wax or wane. But it will hardly end.

Tribune Media Services


Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow and historian at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. E-mail: author@victorhanson.com
Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune

salim
rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/iraq/iraq040907_allawi.rm


Ali Allawi on The Occupation of Iraq: Winning the War, Losing the Peace (04/09/2007)
tajer
ومضات خاطفة : الصحوة البطيئة ــ مهدي قاسم



QUOTE
ليكتشف بعض منهم ولو متأخرا و أخيرا : بأنه حقا أن هناك ثمة شيئا ما ليس على ما يرام في سياسة الاحتلال الأمريكية الجارية بخطوات متعثرة بل و كسيحة في العراق ، وأن الغاية من هذا الاحتلال هو دمار العراق ! ..
أما لماذا ؟؟
! ..
فأنهم الآن يحكون ما خلف أذانهم و جبينهم ليقولوا متلعثمين :
ــ و الله لا نفهم لماذا يتصرف الأمريكيون هكذا في العراق ؟؟! .. و لماذا يتعاملون مع الإرهابيين و أزلام النظام السابق المجرمين بكل هذا التعاطف و بيد مبطنة بالقفزات الحريرية ؟؟! .. و لماذا لم يقضوا على المليشيات المسلحة وهي ما زالت طرية و هشة في مهدها ؟؟! ..
لقد قلنا لهم مرارا :
ــ حسنا ! .. أن إدارة بوش قد أسقطت النظام السابق ، و لقد فرحنا لذلك ! ، غير أنها تعاملت مع العراق فيما بعد ، كمن ينقذ غريقا من اللجة المضطربة لمدة قصيرة ، و من ثم ليرميه مجددا في عمق اللجة ليغرق نهائيا و إلى الأبد !! ..
بالطبع أن هناك بعضا ممَن ما زال غافيا على الوسادة الوردية الأمريكية ــ التي هي وسادة من قش خشن في حقيقة الأمر ـــ وهو يحاول أن يبرر بأن الأمريكيين قد ارتكبوا بعض أخطاء في العراق ، و أن الأمور حتما ستجري على ما يرام في يوم من الأيام ؟!! ..
بينما نحن في المقابل ذلك ، بتنا نعتقد بأنه طالما أن الأمريكيين باقيين في العراق ، فأن العراق سوف لن يكون على ما يرام في يوم من الأيام ، لأنهم ليسوا جديين لكي يكون العراق و شعبه على ما يرام !..
هذه الحقيقة المرة ، أخذ يدركها غالبية العراقيين أن لم يكن كلهم ، و من هنايأتي مصدر يأسهم الأكبر !.


http://www.sotaliraq.com/articles-iraq.php?id=54191
tajer
rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/iraq/iraq020508_reconstruction.rm

U.S. Institute of Peace Panel on Iraq Reconstruction (02/05/2008)
salim
QUOTE


لا علاقة لصدام بتفجيرات أيلول وإنما بصلات مع بن لادن


GMT 16:00:00 2008 الثلائاء 9 سبتمبر





أسامة مهدي


http://65.17.227.80/Web/Politics/2008/9/364071.htm


أغلب المتابعين لسيره الرئيس السابق يجمعون على ان نظام حكمه الطويل كان صنيعه لتفاعل ارادات دوليه وان العشره الاخيره من عمره كانت تحت ضوء مجهر السيطره المباشره لهذه الارادات. مسأله تورط النظام السابق في موضوع احداث ايلول لم يكن مقنعا حتى لابسط المحللين فهو الذي كان المبادر علنا بالتبرع بعد تفجيرات الاولى لمركز التجاره منتصف التسعينات في عرض خبرات اجهزته الاستخباريه للمساعده في تعقب الفاعلين وخصوصا العراقيين منهم. موضوع اتهامه بالعلاقه باحداث ايلول ربما لم يكن الا جزء من خطه توريط القاعده بسحبها الى الفخ العراقي وهي خطه اقل ما سيقول عنها المؤرخون انها من اكثر الخطط الحربيه دهاء وخبثا في تاريخ البشريه. فاستدراج عناصر القاعده من حواضنهم المنيعه في افغانستان الى منطقه القتل المثاليه في العراق حيث لا قاعده فكريه للاتجاه السلفي الجهادي, لم يكن ليتم بدون خطط عسكريه و اعلاميه ونفسيه نجحت في ابراز العراق كساحه الحرب الاولى . لقد بلع بن لادن الطعم وهاهو اليوم ينتظر الساعه التي سنشهد فيها انطلاق المرحله التاليه و الاخيره من الهجوم على حصونه في كهوف تارا بورا بعد استنفاذ طاقه القوه الضاربه لمقاتليه في حرب مستنقع قتل المدنيين العراقيين الخاسره والتي افقدته اي مصداقيه لدى حتى اقرب مناصريه من دعاه القتل والارهاب
http://www.elaph.com/Web/Politics/2008/9/364030.htm
salim
http://www.alarabiya.net/programs/2008/09/12/56458.html

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الجمعة 12 رمضان 1429هـ - 12 سبتمبر 2008م</IMG>



بانوراما: سياسة أمريكا في حرب القاعدة .. هل قواها أم أضعها؟

يعكس الحوار ما كان يسود دوائر التحليل الغربي الى فتره قريبه و قبل اتضاح معالم الخطه الامريكيه في اخيتار العراق كساحه لاستنزاف القاعده معنويا و ماديا . وهي خطه اقل ما سيقول عنها المؤرخون انها من اكثر الخطط الحربيه دهاء وخبثا وعمق في تاريخ البشريه وبما يمكن تسميته باللعبه الكبرى الثانيه بعد ان نفذ الانكليز الاولى في افغانستان قبل اربعمائه سنه. فاستدراج العناصر الانتحاريه الضاربه للقاعده من حواضنهم المنيعه في افغانستان ومن مناطق نفوذها الحساسه في اوربا و حول منابع الخليج النفطيه الى فخ الاباده المثالي في العراق حيث لا اسس تنظيميه او جذور فكريه للاتجاه السلفي التكفيري, لم يكن ليتم بدون خطط عسكريه و اعلاميه ونفسيه نجحت في ابراز العراق كساحه الحرب الاولىمن ناحيه و اضهار بدايه معركته في العراق كنصر كبير بعد الاندحار الشنيع في افغانستان من ناحيه اخرى رافقه الترويج الكيير لفكره الخطر الشيعي ومايمثله من تحد لفكر التكفير .كل ذلك من خلال استخدام اخر ما توصلت له الخبره الاستخباريه والسيطره الغربيه وتجنيد كافه الوسائل الاعلاميه المموله من قبلها او من من قبل الحكومات الصديقه التي وجهت اعلامها لتثبيت مفهوم الجهاد المقاوم في العراق ولكن من خلال زرع العناصر الاستخباريه في جسم التنظيم مستثمره لشهوه القتل الاعمى لدى عناصره وعقد الاندحار و توظيفها في ارتكاب الفضائع بحق المدنيين العراقيين باسم المقاومه بما ضرب القاعده في اهم مرتكزاتها الايدلوجيه من خلال تنفير الناس من اعمال القتل الوحشي العشوائي . لقد بلع الشيخ بن لادن طعم اسطوره الزرقاوي كامله و تم اعاده تصدير تلك العناصر المزروعه في جسم التنظيم للوصول الى اخطر عقده وكما يتبع عاده في مكافحه حشره الارضه وهاهي قياده القاعده اليوم تنتظر الساعه التي سنشهد فيها انطلاق المرحله التاليه و الاخيره من الهجوم على مخابئها المكشوفه في انفاق و ثقوب كهوف تارا بورا بعد استنفاذ طاقه القوه الضاربه لمقاتليها في حرب مستنقع جرائم استباحه دم العراقيين الخاسره والتي كسرت شوكتها صلابه ولحمه و حكمه العراقيين . قياده القاعده عموما تعاني اليوم من عزله قاتله وموضوع الفقاعات التي تظهر هنا وهناك لن يكون لها من تأثير حين تحين ساعه الحساب في الدنيا و الاخره جزاء على ما ارتكبته من اثم و فساد في الارض


فمن قتل نفسا بغير نفس او فساد في الارض فقد قتل الناس جميعا, كما جاء في القرأن الكريم



salim
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/opinion/26ohanlon.html


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Iraq’s Year of Living Dangerously




The
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Kurdish difficulties do not revolve around suicide bombers, visions of seventh-century caliphates, disdain for the United States or pure sectarian hatred as in the Sunni-Shiite civil war. They concern the cold, hard issues of land and oil and cash, as well as the distribution of power between Iraq’s center and its regions and provinces.
In addition to the three provinces that are run by the Kurdish regional government, the Kurds claim lands in three other Iraqi provinces, including the emotionally charged and oil-rich region of Kirkuk. To back up these claims, and because the Iraqi government previously had been unable to secure much of northern Iraq, the Kurds deployed their pesh merga fighters in these disputed places — often originally at Baghdad’s request. They have also used their considerable political powers in much of the area to undo the effects of Saddam Hussein’s brutal policy of Arabization of Kurdish lands. Meanwhile, they have exploited ambiguities in the Constitution to strike deals with foreign firms for oil wells within their three provinces, much to the displeasure of Baghdad.
These tensions nearly led to violence last summer in the ethnically mixed city of Khanaqin, which lies outside the current boundaries of Kurdistan, in Diyala Province, but was under the control of the pesh merga. Prime Minister Maliki, emboldened by recent battlefield successes of Iraq’s Army and police against Shiite militias in Basra and elsewhere, apparently decided to put the Kurds in their place as well.

Mr. Maliki deployed army forces to Khanaqin, only to have them run right into a standoff with the pesh merga troops. Ultimately, cooler heads prevailed, but it should be noted that many of those cooler heads were American — the United States troops who were partnered with the Iraqi Army formations ran interference between the Iraqi Army units and the Kurdish soldiers and brokered a peaceful resolution.

Today other crises loom. An oil field in Kurdistan developed by a Norwegian company is poised to begin production in March. It is not clear whether the Kurds will contribute the revenue from the field to the common Iraqi oil pot, as the central government demands, or will claim the proceeds entirely for themselves. Not only does Mr. Maliki view any Kurdish effort to go it alone on oil as unacceptable, he may also sense that inflating it as a campaign issue could help him and his Dawa Party in parliamentary voting this year.

And while key leaders from Mr. Maliki’s government, various parliamentary opposition parties, and the Kurds all insist that they plan to resolve their differences peacefully, several members of the American military command for Northern Iraq warned us during conversations in Iraq last week that the officers of the newly forming Iraqi 12th Infantry Division have repeatedly stated that once their unit is ready, they plan to occupy their entire area of operations — which includes Kirkuk. The pesh merga fighters, of course, are just as adamant that this would be unacceptable.

While the United Nations has been putting together a grand plan for resolving the Kurdish issues, it cannot impose a solution — and under the terms of the new security agreement, neither can the United States. But just because Washington no longer holds viceregal authority does not mean it is powerless. America’s military forces, which increasingly serve as peacekeepers, and its commitment of nation-building tools (including provincial reconstruction teams and technical advisers in the Iraqi government) still give American officials tremendous influence. Washington must employ this leverage deftly to help Iraqi Arabs and Kurds (and Turkmens and others) overcome their differences.

The Obama administration has been handling the Iraq war pragmatically so far. And while announcing a timetable poses a serious risk, the details of Mr. Obama’s plan leaked to the press this week are promising, especially leaving behind a large residual force including trainers and quick-reacting “maneuver units” and slowing the drawdown by three months relative to what he had promised on the campaign trail. Those few months are vital, as they should give the Iraqis adequate time to form their new government before the American troop levels are vastly diminished. Ideally, whatever he announces now, Mr. Obama will remain flexible, and slow the pace next year if necessary.

GIVEN Iraq’s strategic significance, the mission ceased to be a “war of choice” the moment American forces crossed the border in March 2003. Now we have no choice but to see Iraq through to stability.

It is worth remembering that our current economic disaster started with a great rise of oil prices from 2004 to 2007, which then helped set off the mortgage and credit meltdowns. Although the increase in oil prices had more to do with inadequate refining capacity and increased demand from China and India than with instability of the Middle East, previous recessions have resulted from the area’s political calamities; it is easy to imagine others in the future.






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THE Iraq war isn’t over. And while President Obama’s apparent decision to withdraw the bulk of American troops by August 2010 is not necessarily a mistake, it cannot be carried out rigidly. If all continues to go well, it should be eminently feasible; if not,the administration will have to show the strategic wisdom to slow down as needed to deal with problems.

Having just returned from a trip to the country arranged by the top American commander there, Gen. Ray Odierno, we agree that Iraq continues to make tremendous strides, thanks to American assistance and, increasingly, the efforts of Iraqi politicians and security forces. But both those ready to dust off the infamous “Mission Accomplished” banner and declare victory and those who continue to see Iraq as an inherent disaster that must simply be abandoned have to realize that continued American involvement will be crucial for several more years.

Young democracies are fragile entities. Political scientists generally agree that achieving a peaceful and credible second round of elections is critical in putting a new democracy on a path toward stability, because such elections test whether the country can accomplish a nonviolent transfer of power.

Iraq is holding its second round of real elections this year. It just concluded extremely successful provincial votes, and national parliamentary elections are to follow. Iraq’s calendar this year is also jam-packed with other important political events. If the United States can help the Iraqis secure even modestly positive outcomes for these events, we will have gone a long way toward realizing our goals of sustainable stability in Iraq and bringing most of our troops home next year.

Iraq is no longer convulsed by the chaos, sectarianism and terrorism that were driving it into all-out civil war in 2006. To be sure, friction remains, most notably in the ethnically diverse city of Mosul in the north, where coalition forces have only recently been reinforced to the point where they can conduct the kind of counterinsurgency campaign that secured the rest of the country. Unfortunately, they are racing against the clock to do so, since the recently signed security agreement between Baghdad and Washington requires American combat forces to leave Iraq’s cities by June 30.

But the main challenge now is that some key political players, strengthened by Iraq’s enormous recent progress, are less interested in moving their country forward than in using every tool at their disposal to put themselves in advantageous positions after the American withdrawal. Worse still, some — perhaps many — are doing so by exploiting the immaturity of the political process and the ambiguities in Iraq’s constitution.

Iraq has several important challenges that could strain its political system over the next year. They include the return of up to four million displaced people to their homes; the release of thousands of people detained by coalition forces, some of them surely dangerous; the continued search for permanent jobs for the largely Sunni Sons of Iraq, whose actions against the insurgents in Anbar Province were a key to the success of the “surge”; falling oil prices that will hamper the government’s ability to pay its workers; and the more general tasks of increasing oil exports, employment and the quality of life for Iraqis.

Perhaps the most vivid demonstration of the problems Iraq faces is the enormous tension brewing between the autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government, led by Massoud Barzani, and the central government led by Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. During the years of warfare between Sunni and Shiite Arabs, the Kurdish issue lay dormant. But now it has roared back to the forefront. Nearly everyone we spoke with in the area this month — Kurds, Arabs, Americans and others — described the situation as explosive and the enmity between Mr. Barzani and Prime Minister Maliki as ferocious.


In addition, we cannot overlook Iraq’s enormous regional significance. President Obama has rightly insisted that the Bush administration committed cardinal sins by failing to engage Syria and Iran in its regional strategy and by remaining aloof from the Israeli-Palestinian and Lebanese conflicts for too long. But any broader Middle Eastern agenda is hostage to the situation in Mesopotamia. If Iraq slips back into chaos, President Obama is going to find little desire among Jordanians, Saudis, Syrians and Turks for taking the hard steps to forge a durable peace with Israel — or among Iranians to reach a rapprochement. In the end, it is up to the Iraqis to make their nation peaceful and productive — we should not baby-sit Iraq through all of its problems as a young democracy. But it faces one last crucially tense period in the coming 12 to 18 months. American interests argue strongly for using all the leverage we have gained among Iraqis during six years of intense partnership to help Iraq through its “year of transitions” — then we can bring our troops home quickly, but responsibly.
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