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  1. Bahlol, I beleive that Achilla is saying that he believes that the comment is very strong.. He don't know Arabic , so he is just wondering if his expectation is correct.. بهلول اعتقد ان اشيلا يقصد انه يتوقع ان يكون المقال مؤشرا لانه ريعرف العربيه . انه فقط يتسائل اذا كان توقعه في محله
  2. You might find answers from some one who just returened from Iraq,, Please go through the second part of the this http://baghdadee.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=28 Briefly, No for almost 80% who find democracy as only way of having a secure future for every one. Yes for around 10% of Iraqi's who are finding the new political change as a big loss.. They feel that democracy simlpy means no chance for getting back to the old golden days of being alone as the good citizens the other 10% might not be decided yet if the offered bribes by the Baathists and Wahabee's worth shoting an American or killing a bunch of Iraqis. As a summary: Tel me what is your position toward democracy in Iraq , I can tell you what is your opinion about the Terror/Resistance .. Call it what you like. Nothing to do with Occupation
  3. I just wanted to know about the following , please help me evaluate the situation. From legal prospective, what is the complication of having the Iraqi government don't comply with what Saddam's government had signed and agree for .. I am not talking only about the financial issues, which is of concern under this topic, but also other , let explain. Saddam use to have so may arrangments and aggrements that he used to brib people and other governemnts in order to support his regime. Something like the annual one b$ gift of oil to Jordan, The bribs to all Arab buisnessmen as Oil contracts. Arrangements to explore and investe in Iraqi OIl with Russia and France.. My point is that is there any internation legal way by the new government of not following what Saddam had signed? What was the case with pre Hitler government in Germany?
  4. الفن الثلاثاء المقبل .. حفل السمفونية العراقية في واشنطن أعلنت أول أمس وزارة الخارجية الأمريكية أن الأوركسترا السمفونية العراقية ستحيي حفلة موسيقية في واشنطن سيحضرها وزير الخارجية الأمريكي كولن باول و تقام الحفلة في مركز كيندي الذي يعد أهم مركز فني في واشنطن هذا و سيقود الفرقة الاؤركسترا محمد أمين عزت .
  5. عن جريده الصباح رياضة العراق مركز إقليم للعبة الطائرة يشارك العراق في اجتماعات الجمعية العمومية للاتحاد العربي بالكرة الطائرة الذي سيبدأ في العاصمة الاردنيه الأربعاء المقبل و سيستمر ثلاثة أيام وسيمثل العراق في الاجتماع الدكتور عامر جبار رئيس اتحاد العبه العراقي بعد انقطاع طويل لمدة 13عاما بسبب الظرف السابقة و سيبحث الاجتماع تحديد مواعيد البطولات العربية المقبلة واختيار مكانا للإقامة مركزا إقليميا في الشرق الأوسط للعبة فضلا عن البحرين و السودان كما سيتم خلال الاجتماع مناقشة استضافة العراق للبطولة العربية الشاطئية صيف العام المقبل فضلا عن مشاورات سيجريها الوفد مع اتحاد البحرين و مصر و سوريا و قطر و السعودية بشأن تنظيم لقاءات ودية مع منتخبنا الوطني خلال النصف الأول من العام المقبل و السعي الى مشاركة المدربين و المحكمين العراقيين في دورات تخصصية دولية بهدف زيادة و رفع كفاءتهم الفنية و المهارة والعودة الى كرة الطائرة العراقية الى المنافسات العربية و القارية و الإقليمية فضلا عن مشاركة الفرق العراقية الأخرى في معسكرات و دورات تدريبية أخرى . بطولة الحكيم بكرة القدم ينظم نادي العدل الرياضي بطولة السيد عبد العزيز الحكيم رئيس مجلس الحكم لدورته الحالية لخماسي الكرة للقاعات المغلقة ذكر ذلك السيد صائب صادق الحكيم رئيس الهيئة الإدارية لنادي العدل و أضاف أن البطولة التي ستقام في قاعة نادي العدل بمنطقة العدل سيشارك بها 20 نادي و فريق من بغداد الأسبوع الحالي مشيرا أن اللجنة خصصت جوائز نقدية للمشاركين و أكد السيد صائب الحكيم الذي يرأس اتحاد الرياضات المائية و الشراع أيضا أن العراق سيشارك في اجتماعات الاتحاد الدولي الذي سيعقد في ألمانيا الشهر الحالي . للمشاركة في بطولة الأندية العربية بكرة الطاولة وفد الكاظمية يتوجه الى بيروت من المؤمل أن يغادر بغداد اليوم وفد نادي الكاظمية لكرة الطاولة للمشاركة في بطولة الأندية العربية التي ستقام في لبنان للمدة من العاشر من الشهر الحالي و لمدة عشرة ايام و يراس الوفد العراقي السيد عبدالكريم حميد رئيس النادي و يضم في عضويته السيد كاظم خزعل مديرا للفريق و الزميل نعمة عبد الصاحب صحفيا مرشحا من الاتحاد العراقي للصحافة الرياضية و السيد اسعد علي مدربا و اللاعبين سهيل نجم و عبدالسلام احمد و عمار علي و حيدر سليم . فريق المؤتمر الوطني بكرة القدم يفوز ببطولة برزان الخالد اقيمت على ملعب الإدارة المحلية في محافظة ديالى بطولة برزان الخالد الكروية بكرة القدم التي نظمها الحزب الديمقراطي الكردستاني في المحافظة بالتعاون لجنة التنسيق الرياضي و قد اشترك فيها (‌‌22) فريقا من أندية المحافظة و خطف كأس البطولة فريق المؤتمر الوطني و جاء ثانيا الحزب الديمقراطي الكردستاني فيما حل بالمركز الثالث فريق الاتحاد الوطني الكردستاني ويشرف على تدريب المؤتمر الوطني المدرب هادي شجاع العنكبي و أدار مباريات البطولة طاقم تحكيم اتحادي . في دوري أبطال العرب الطلبة يتعادل سلبيا أمام الاتحاد السعودي تعادل فريق الاتحاد السعودي مع ضيفه الطلبة العرقي بدون أهداف يوم الجمعة في أولى مباريات الفريقين بالمجموعة الآسيوية الثانية بالدور الثاني لبطولة أبطال العرب لكرة القدم و بهذه النتيجة يحتل الفريقان المركز الثاني في المجموعة و لكل منهما نقطة واحدة و يتصدر الكويت الكويتي بثلاث نقاط و الفيصلي الأردني المركز الأخير بدون نقاط . أخبار منوعة أن الاتحاد العراقي للرياضات المائية و الشراع سيشارك في بطولة آسيا التي ستقام في الصين شهر شباط المقبل كما يشارك العراق في بطولة استراليا الدولية التي ستجرى الشهر المقبل و علمنا أيضا أن اتحاد العبه يسعى للدخول الى مجلس التعاون الخليجي من خلال الكويت . آخر خبر يشارك العراق في بطولة العرب للبليارد و السنوكر للرجال و النساء التي ستفتح في العاصمة السورية دمشق اليوم و تستمر 8 ايام ويراس الوفد العراقي السيد شمس الدين عبدالعالي و ضم المدرب بطرس نيسان و الحكم صباح فاضل و اللاعبين رينات وليم و سيف باسل و محمد فلاح و علي عبد الحسن و حيدر كريدي و اكرم عباس و مهند ماجد و أيهاب حسن و داود علي . في تصفيات كاس العالم 2006 العراق في المجموعة الثانية الجانب اوزبكستان وفلسطين و تايوان أوقعت القرعة منتخبنا الوطني في المجموعة الآسيوية الثانية التي تضم الى جانبه ,اوزبكستان و فلسطين و تايوان في تصفيات كأس العالم 2006 فيما ستكون مهمة المنتخبات العربية الأخرى متفاوتة ما بين الصعوبة و السهولة في التأهل الى الدور التالي إذ من الممكن أن تكون مهمة المنتخب السعودي سهلة جدا بعد أن وضعته القرعة مع منتخبات اندنوسيا و تركمانستان و سريلانكا في تلاقي قطر و الأردن بعض الصعوبة في مواجهة إيران في المجموعة الأولى و التي ضمت لاوس الى جانبهما و تقام المباريات بنظام الذهاب و الإياب و يتأهل المنتخب الذي يحتل المركز الأول في كل مجموعة الى الدور الآخر في التصفيات إذ سيتم تقسيم الفرق الثمانية الى مجموعتين و يتأهل المنتخبان الذين يحتلان المركزين الأول و الثاني في كل مجموعة الى نهائيات كأس العالم 2006 فيما يلتقي المنتخبان اللذان يحتلان المركز الثالث في المجموعتين فاصل و يلعب المنتحب الفائز في هذا اللقاء مع المنتخب المتأهل من تصفيات الكونكاكاف و التي تضم اتحاد أمريكا الشمالية و الوسطى و الجنوبية للتأهل الى البطولة و بذلك يكون الطريق سالكا أمام منتخبنا الوطني للظهور في نهائيات كأس العالم 2006 و ليعزز انتصاراته الأسيوية التي حققها .
  6. First time I had heard about was couple of months ago, I think it was in the NT,. Some write was reporting that the coalition were thinking about some thing like what is going on in Alaska. I don't remeber the details though. As Iraqi I was very harememberthat time , feeling that this would block central governments from playing with the destiny of people! I was under the impression that there will be no real good government that representing people.. Now I have all the hopes that this is immanent. I think we need to wait and see what Iraqis would say. I personally changed my mind.. I think it should be divided with some shares going to the well fare of people, child care, and elder retirement, etc..
  7. Let me tell this story that I heard recently from my sister. She is a 53 years Iraqi, library woman at one of Baghdad's high schools with about thirty years work experience for the Iraqi government. Over the last ten years , her salary was about average of 5 US $ PER MONTH!!. Now . after months of liberation, she is getting about 150$ . She is extremly happy. When I asked her about her living, she told me a story that might be good to mention under this article In the school that she is working at , there is still some Baathists teachers who are still loyal to Saddam and keep dreaming of those old days that they were the only good citizens!.. One of them approached her wondering "why you are so happy with your salary at a time the Americans are steeling your money , you should get at least trible what you are getting!" My sister immediately replied " OH, Yah! how much then your uncle had stolen paying us 5 $ a month?" I am wondering how long the writer of the article had waited to tell us about what the Iraqis should be paid?? دعني اخبرك هذه القصه التي سمعتها مؤخرا من اختي. انها في 53 من العمر , عراقيه تعمل امينه مكتبه في احدى المادرس التانويه في بغداد ولديها خدمه تقارب الثلاثين سنه. في الحكومه. خلال العشره سنوات الماضيه كان معدل راتبها الشهري لايتجاوز خمسه دولار .الان وبعد اشهر من التحرير, تقبض حوالي 150 دولار.وهي مسروره جدا. عندما سالتها عن وضعها المعاشي حاليا. اخبرتني قصه حصلت معها من المفيد ذكرها تحت هذا العمود. في المدرسه التي تعمل بها لا زال هناك بعض البعثيات ممن لا زلن يحلمن بعوده الزمن الى الوراء ايام كن المواطنات الصالحات الوحيدات!! احداهن اقتربت منها متعجبه" لماذا انت فرحه بهذا الراتب بينما الامريكان يسروقن راتيك. انك تستحقين على الاقل ثلاثه اضعافه" اجابتها اختي مباشره " ها! لعد شكد باك عمج منا ؟" انا اتسال كم من الزمن انتظر كاتب المقال لكي يخبرنا كم يجب ان يقبض العراقي؟
  8. Quoting Averroes First of all I want to admit that I have no real personal contact with Chalabi or his group Almoatamur, I even don't know any person that knows him directely. It is mere personal followup to his acts. So I might not be the right person to tell the real stories about him. Never the less, I keep hearing stories about him with absolutely no evidences or logic senses. As the case in your point above, you mentioned that you set your disagreement based on close follow up on his acts over the last years when I asked you to give me a specific example. Don't you agree with me that what you had mentioned is not enough to judge a person as non honest man.. Let me explain what I mean, one by one Do you know that even the Ayatoolah Baker Hakim, the beloved clergy who was killed in Najaf explosion, was also called outsider? Can you tell me about one honest freefighter Iraqi that is not outsider? Do you mean that he told them that it would be very easy to throw Saddam away inspite of the huge military arsinal that he had? If so, isn't that the case. Are you refering to the chaos that had happened after the occupation? Isn't it that a proof to what he already adviced the Americans to let Iraqis immediatly take over, some thing that the Americans never follow? Do you really beleive those who had robbed their people over tens of years? Why didn't they follow him through the Interpol? Why didn't they proceed with a regular civil court rather than non legitemate military one? If that is beacuase they are afraid of leaking some royal family's scam, then how can we trust such a regime's claims? Do you think that he just walked there by himself? Hasn't the American military brough him there with his militia ? Why didn't the military comply with the other parties in the adminstration on this ? A question that you may find answers for in the above article by MR.Basim M.
  9. Averoes, I agree that the path towards democracy is long, you Americans would have a lot of stories to teach if you were allowed to! My point is; don't let "seeking for perfection" spoil the exercise of democracy. We need to know who our real allies are , we need to differentiate between those of real causes and those who are trying their best to redirect the mission after they returned empty handed with all their deadly efforts to stop the liberation of Iraqis. Comparing Iraq to Afghanistan, don't you notice that Iraqis got into GC council with all its factions just months after liberation and without any help from any non Iraqi.. I don't think you might beleive the stupid story of GC being appointed, though! About Chalabi, I would like to continue on this under the Article Chalabi Just to have the current article more into it's subject.. I will quote you there and reply..
  10. Cool Breeze, Very simple math, Shia are not more than 65%, Just like others, they are not single opiniated. If we assure the constitution to have a pass percentage , say 80% as absolute majority . Then there is no way an Islamic state can be expected. First of all there is only 10% of Shia that might sympythise with such thing while. Second, the majority of those who might push for this are Wahabee's . It might be true that Wahabee's are finding a strong holds today within the Arab Sunni's , but they are a very low percentage compared to Iraqis who are against it. To my understanding, there is any political group that might dare having such a goal in their agenda.. They know people would never vote for them.
  11. Lee, Please have a look to Guest's reply above.. I would claim that most intellectual Arab sunni's " that are not Baathist or Wahabee's" are not against the real democratic process.. You can confirm that with Zeyad, he is an Arab Sunni and from a well known and powerful Trainglee descendent family.. All what those who keep yeilding " Shia are comming", is just to put hold on the legitimate democratic process. I asked Mr. Basim Mustaar to comment on this and we might have a detailed answer soon from an Iraqi shcolar that realy believe in.
  12. Have a look to this article by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/04/opinion/04FRIE.html?th Might need registration, it is free though! I like his Have a look to what extent those in the academy might comply with what we are discussing here. I would say that with such great and deep interest by the Americans, I am sure there will be on another British mistake! I am at work and will reply to other questions on my launch time
  13. قد يكون ما احدثكم عنه هو غير ذي بال لمن عرف العراق ولكنها امور اريد ان اسجلها للتاريخ انا لم اكن ممن يمكن ان يوصفوا بمعارضه نظام صدام بل على العكس كنت ممن نعم ببعض الامتيازات, فبالرغم من كوني شيعيا ولست حزبيا فقد تم قبولي في الدراسات العليا في الثمانينات وذلك بسبب تفوقي العلمي على الاقل. عدا هذا فقد حرمت من التمتع بزهره شبابي الذي كنت اقضيه اما خائفا من القبض علي بتهمه عدم الاتحاق بالجيش ايام حرب ايران ولتلك قصه طويله, او بسبب عدم تمكني من اكمال دراستي العليا التي كنت اطمح لها. على ايه حال فقد حررتنا حرب الكويت وفتح السفر وكنت اول المغادرين.. المهم بالموضوع انني وبعد حوالي اكثر من عشر سنوات من الهجره الى الغرب وحصولي على كل الضمانات بالعيش الهادئ و على مركز وظيفي جيد في احدى اكثر شركات العلم التكنلوجيه تقدما , كنت قد بقيت اعاني ولحد السنه الماضيه من مشكله.. المشكله انني اعاني من كابوس كان ياتيني في المنام من انني ولسبب ما رجعت الى العراق وانه بمجرد دخولي صدر قرار بمنعي من السفر. استيقض فزعا اكاد انفجر من الفزع , المشكله ان الكابوس عاده يكون من الثقل بحيث يحرمني من النوم مره اخرى! هل تستحق هذه المعاناه كلفه نسجيلها It might be no issue for those who have witnessed Iraq under Saddam, yet I thought it might be worth documenting . I was not one of those who had the blessing of being one of the opposition to Saddam, on the contrary I got some of the regime blessings. Though I was a Shia and not a party-member, I got accepted in the post graduate studies, may be for my good academic records. Other than this, I spend the best of my life afraid of being caught for my escaping the army during the Iran war and for not having accomplished my dream of continuing my study abroad. Any ways, when we got librated after the Kuwaiti war, and the boarder had been opened again, I was one of the first who fled out. The simple important issue is that after more than ten years of getting out of that suffering, and getting all the insurunces of well being and getting a job at one of the best technology firms, I kept having a nightmare. I dreamed that I had returned back to Iraq for some reason and there is a law issued to block me from travel abroad! I wake up so frightened.. The problem is that I can not get back to sleep again on such a bad night!
  14. Averroes, Let us make our debate more informative :-) "It is true that some Americans fear that "Iraq might choose an Islamic government" " There is no relation between having Iraqis choosing those who write the constitution and the possibility of Islamic government. As far as we have the vote on the constitution based on the absolute majority.. There is no way that a majority constitution would be a nursery for any sort of dictatorship, including Islamic government.. It is on contrary, if you force some temporary non democratic mechanism that is easier to implement, you might end up doing nothing.And you might loss the real cause of getting there with all the sacrifices! As for the Afghan, what I meant is that it might be good for Afghani but not for Iraq case. As I said get a car but it on the right one way road.. Don't ride a horse it might buy nothing. Your quote "My antipathy for Chalabi is personal, based on intuition. I have observed him for some years" May I ask you to give a specific example to what you had observed? Your quote "But the insecurities you have addressed with lee must be addressed in such a way that all voters in the first election can feel comfortable with the result." That is exactly what I meant by Absolute majority.. Yet there is still Lee's good point, what if some minority keep refusing the constitution.. I have no answer now.. But based on the great job that GC already did in cooperating between different factions..I am sure there will be no such dead lock so as to scarify the great opportunity of having a real democratic system in MD for the first time in history. That is exactly what most Iraqis are crying for today, Alsystani is just reflecting their feelings Your Quote" Our founding fathers lay down a constitution which allowed us to approach the ideals of the Declaration of Independence, even when those same fathers could not institute such a society in their times" Let me ask every one to be as courageous as those great fathers, let us complete their great job by having their dreams all over the world especially MD.
  15. Lee, I would say that the issue is not Sunni Arab against Kurd Suni's and Shia Arab.. As Abu Ayat but it in his article, some Outsider Arabs, Baathist and Wahabee's keep telling Sunni Arab in Iraq that Democracy is the rule of majority which means no say for them in future Iraq.. Most Intellectuals don't agree with this, but it might need time to make it clearer to others. Your question/concern is very realistic though!
  16. We can go with the British analogy!, what I am afraid about is getting our kids run into another 9/11 after one another century! Indeed my in take about getting over a horse is that with car I can keep steering it on a well designed roads. With a horse you may end up going no where! As for the preparation for democracy , having majority of Iraqis believe in a non Islamic state " by faith not only by analogy", also having the majority experienced the bad of tyranny, I think we are almost there. What a lot of westerners afraid about of having a real democracy is the issue of turning to an Islamic state by choice.. The problem with this realistic analogy is it is based on some previous experiences with Islamic countries.. What is missing here is that the majority Shiat in Iraq doesn't believe in that by faith. Iraq is only Arab country with majority Shia.. The last thing to compare Iraq to is Afghan one. For two reasons 1- Majority in Afghanistan is Sunni with nomadic background, just like our Trainglees.. With all sympathy to power and rule ! 2- The real motive behind the Iraqi democracy exercise is to sell abroad.. You can't sell a bad product.. As far as GC , most Iraqis that I had talked to , are fan of the GC, the issue they would like them to rule through Iraqi decision and not being appointed. Some thing that may raise the same concern with any appointed committee. By the way what you don't like with Chalabi, indeed making him very popular inside Iraq..
  17. My point is that writing the constitution have no thing to do with voting for it.. What we should go for is to have the constitution be approved by absolute majority.. Which means all the minorities would have a say on it. Agree with you no rely on promises.. Writing the constitution is a sensative process, having in mind two issues 1- All the conspiracy theory behind the Americans coming to change our Islamic culture. Any Constitution written by appointed people might make the constitution looks suspicious to Iraqis. . I remember when an Egyptian Minster was proposing some Arabs to write or to help writing it, there was a shock among Iraqis about how dare he is to ! 2- having all suffering by Iraqis from the domination of "some minority being supported by external forces" ,the re domination is a real concern among Iraqis.. We don't want the same British appointed ruler experience to take over again.. It is a real opportunity for a real democratic system in the MD.. PLEASE don't let it go just for some un realistic doubts! We don't want to ride a horse rather than a car , just becuase some one did that before .. Americans went through a different process because there was no car at that time.. And we deserve going to the best directly..
  18. Well let me tell my part of the story.. We were four Iraqi families spending some time at Lake Tahoe.. Then some one told us about the visit.. I don't know if you can imagine.. All the group turn to the Tv looking for Fox covering of the story.. We were so delighted that we could not afford hearing it from CNN with some guys trying to make it look less bright than what it would be. It ruined our sky program for that day though!
  19. Averroes "I agree that having the American-selected GC do it is conter-democracy. I propose a compromise that postpones a country-wide popular vote until after a constitution is formed by elected representatives from all areas of the Iraq. Then there could be a vote on that constitution." That is exactly what most people in Iraq asking for.. The issue is about if we are going "to elect or to appoint" those who would right the constitution.. There is no notion of having a majority Shia making the constitiution going to their side.. The Constitution passing would need the voting of absolute majority.. And shia are not.. So why we make a big deal of it and not getting the real represtation of people rather than appointing them. If we start it with an illegel basis today, they later, some one would come and have this as excuse to retreat from.. That is what Alsistany was refering to. I personally don't find election the best way, but I would go for it as the only long standing solution. That is of course having the final approval in the hand of Absolute majority to the constitution.
  20. Shall I expect all those who keep teaching us " Democracy is the right of people to rule them selfs" are now telling another.. Democracy is " Allowing others to decide your destinay".. The issue is not having Shia majority rule, because this would never happen under a democratic constitution. The Fedral system would prevent this from happening. Having in mind that the Shia is not the absolute majority.. As far as Alsystany.. What his Hukom was saying, is that the constititusion should be written by the real reperesntative of Iraqis, and direct elction by people is the only way that this election can get legitamcy.. Isn't that the basic step one in any real democratic system.. Why not when it comes to Iraq? As far as non Shia, I think the issue is not being minority. Sunni Kurds have no issue with . Jalal Talabani already talked about reamending the process to comply with Alsystani's demands.. Christains have no objection's .. The issue is with some Arab Sunni who afraid that such an election would make their dreams of steeling back the Iraqi decition again would be not possible for ever.
  21. Would some one describe the one as per the Musol's
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