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  1. I saw this article.

    some excerptd

     

    Insider tip-off led to Zarqawi's death

    By Middle East correspondent Matt Brown and wires

    A tip-off from within Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's circle enabled US forces to "deliver justice" against the most wanted militant in Iraq with two 500 pound bombs.

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    But the US military also says it has used electronic eavesdropping and spies to monitor Zarqawi's closest associates in an operation that began at the end of 2004

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    An Egyptian named Abu al-Masri is thought to be the next in line to command the Al Qaeda network in Iraq.

     

    The US military says it has gleaned a large amount of information about the network from a series of 17 raids staged around the same time as the air strike.

     

    Jordanian help

     

    Jordanian officials say they had a role in the hunt for Zarqawi in neighbouring Iraq

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    After a triple suicide bombing in Amman last year, many Jordanians turned against him, but he still has a hard core of supporters.

     

    In his home town of Zarqa, north of Amman, his relatives have hailed him as a martyr and his neighbours say he was a good man who fought the Americans

     

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200606/s1658977.htm

  2. A few days ago I saw a story that said;

    " Maliki to release 2,500 prisoners "

    I thought this could add "recruits" to the insurgency.

    ABout 24 hours ago I heard a story that ;

    "600 have been released from prisons"

     

    I wonder........Did the Iraqi government make a deal for information on Zarqawi in exchange for family member of certain tribes being held in prison?

     

    ?

    Maybe ?

     

    Maye not but

     

    I find it convienant that tips came in that resulted in credible, reliable information that ended al-Zarqawi's terror reign pf torture on both Sunni and Shia.

     

     

    I also heard Maliki say that The $25 MILLION bounty on AL-Zarqawi will be paid in full to those supplying the information

     

    Does anybody know what family and tribal area Al-Zarqawi spent his last day alive in?

     

     

    Somebody sold him out.

  3. Here is a small excerpt from a recent article about Haditha

    November 19th was a Saturday, right in the middle of a three-day spate of violence that the New York Times called "one of the deadliest three day periods since the American invasion," with 155 Iraqis and 8 American and British troops reportedly killed that weekend.

     

    Now a Time Magazine story, published in March of this year after a 10-week investigation, has altered the Haditha narrative dramatically.

     

    http://electroniciraq.net/news/2366.shtml

     

    This is a lot like the "Mohammed cartoon drawings" when they were first published in Europe.

     

     

    It took several months, even up to a year, before those that spread the article convinced middle east Muslims it was time to be outraged.

  4. How powerfull is the Karabila tribe and will they exact revenge as may be the expected custom?

     

     

    a short article excerpt;

    Sunni sheik assassinated in Baghdad

     

    A prominent Sunni Arab tribal leader who provided fighters to help battle al-Qaida in western Iraq was assassinated Sunday in Baghdad, police said.

     

    Sheik Osama al-Jadaan

    died in a hail of bullets as he was driving in the city's Mansour district, police Lt. Maitham Abdul Razzaq said. Al-Jadaan's driver and a bodyguard also were killed.

     

    Al-Jadaan, a leader of the Karabila tribe, announced an agreement with the U.S.-backed Iraqi government to help track down al-Qaida members and foreign fighters along the border with Syria.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060528/ap_on_...HE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

     

    Will his family demand revenge? Will they settle their loss for money?

  5. Article excerpts

     

    BAGHDAD (AP) - Five Iraqis were killed in drive-by shootings on Saturday, including a tribal sheik, while a U.S. Army soldier died in a roadside bomb attack, officials said.

     

    The bodies of three Iraqis who had been kidnapped and tortured also were found in the capital of Iraq, police said.

     

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    Saturday's worst attacks involving Iraqis occurred in Mosul, a mostly Sunni Arab city 360 kilometres northwest of Baghdad.

     

    Suspected insurgents riding in what looked like a taxi shot and killed Idrees Shihatha, a local tribal sheik, as he drove his car, said police Brig. Abdul-Hamid al-Jibouri.

     

     

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/05...1578188-ap.html

     

    I don't see how the Iraqi army and police can take control of their country when the government still isn't seated.

  6. Article that quotes al Sadr

    Tribal leaders, clerics call for an end to Iraq's sectarian violence

     

     

     

    BAGHDAD, Iraq – Baghdad's most senior Shiite cleric urged Iraqis Wednesday to unite for the sake of security as about 50 clerics and tribal leaders met in the capital to discuss ways of ending widespread violence.

    Dressed in outfits ranging from business suits and ties to traditional Arab robes and head scarves, the tribal leaders and Sunni Arab, Shiite and Kurdish clerics met at Al-Hashimi mosque in northern Baghdad. At one point, they knelt on a carpet to pray together in a unified ritual.

     

     

     

    Ayatollah Hussein Ismail al-Sadr, Baghdad's most senior Shiite cleric, called for an end to bloodshed.

    Iraq is undergoing its most critical stage ever. Our blood is being shed every minute and our ordeals are increasing every day. The safety of Iraq should be above all other goals,” he said.

     

    Al-Sadr urged his countrymen to “respect the opinions and beliefs of each other because it is the only way to preserve our country.”

     

    He said U.N. and Arab League envoys had been invited to attend the meeting and he was disappointed they had not.

     

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    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/i...acemeeting.html

    What will it take for Sistani to issue a fatwa ( or some edict ) that his followers will listen to ?

     

    Will Sunni listen ?

    al Sadr is correct that if the violence doesn't stop soon. Iraq will slip back into the city state divisions of the middle ages.

  7. In Arabic. The story was a "hoax";

    http://www.alarabiya.net/Articles/2006/05/08/23565.htm

     

     

    The video actually shows the gruesome murder of a Nepalese man by the Army of Ansar al-Sunna in Iraq from August of 2004.

    So

    I understand the beheading wasn't that of the journalist but rather, the beheading of a man from Nepal 19 months ago.

     

    The MSM seems to be breathing a sigh of relief.......

    still....

    they managed to ignore the story of a non journalist beheading as being not important..he was a nobody ?

  8. The link suggests the cameraphone containig the video was taken off the body of an Iranian supported militia member.

     

    But the beheading remains the trademark of al Queda

    Part of me died when I saw this cruel killing

    HALA JABER

     

     

     

    EVEN by the stupefying standards of Iraq’s unspeakable violence, the murder of Atwar Bahjat, one of the country’s top television journalists, was an act of exceptional cruelty.

     

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    ...By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage. It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear. ...

     

    A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.

     

    Her cries — “Ah, ah, ah” — can be heard above the “Allahu akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.

     

    Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat.

     

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2168496,00.html

     

    That is all I will post of this recent murder by the brave "freedom fighters"

     

    I hope the Iraqi government starts a bloody purge as one of their first official acts.

  9. Article from MERMI

    http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=cou...iraq&ID=IA27206

     

    This next link may be the same article translated in Arabic;

    http://elaph.com/ElaphWeb/ElaphLiterature/2006/3/132006.htm

     

     

    After the fall of Saddam, many newspapers and magazines were published but after one year, few could afford to remain in circulation. Not enough interest in the special little niches they hoped to fill but some have survived mostly due to the Iraqi support by purchaseing the magazines.

     

    The market decided what Iraqi's liked and could be an indication of what they are thinking...or ...would rather think about and discuss with each other a common interest.

    This article describes what Iraqis are reading and supporting with a large enough circulation. Obviously, finding a common thread in many Iraqi's worked for these magazines.

     

    Some excerpts of the MERMI article;

    Magazines Iraqis Read

    By Dr. Nimrod Raphaeli

     

    Survey of Magazines

     

    The magazines cover a wide variety of topics, ranging from a theological analysis of the significance of Ashura (a period of mourning observed by Shi'ite communities, commemorating the betrayal and death of the Prophet Mohammad's grandson Hussein in the 7th century) to a piece about the use of instant messaging for purposes of flirting - the latter being a significant breakthrough in a conservative society which favors arranged marriages.

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    Al-Ghad ("Tomorrow")

     

    The magazine, published in Baghdad (its address is listed as "across from the Ministry of Agriculture"), describes itself as a general political weekly (issued temporarily as a monthly) dedicated to "youth development." The magazine is printed on glossy paper with high-quality color photographs throughout. The cover of the March 6, 2006, issue shows the mosques recently destroyed in Samaraa. The headline reads: "Shock of Samarra Tragedy Triggers United Iraqi Response" The inside flap of the cover features a cartoon showing a monster terrorist sitting in a tree and sawing through the branch on which it is sitting

     

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    Al Sedeqa ("The Virtuous Woman")

     

    This magazine, published in Najaf, presents itself as a religious, social and educational magazine "for women [written] entirely by women." The current issue is mostly devoted to the death of Mohammad's grandson Hussein in the 7th century, which sparked the conflict between the Sunnis and the Shi'ites - a conflict over religious doctrine and the legitimacy of the succession of the Prophet Mohammad. For the Shi'ites, Hussein is a heroic, good, and just figure, who fell victim to betrayal, treachery and debauchery. As a religious magazine, Al Sadiqa carries only the Islamic date - Muharram 1427 - which corresponds to February 2006.

     

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    Bushra ("Glad Tidings")

     

    Another monthly magazine "for women by women," published in Karbala.

     

    The January 2006 issue (Issue No. 85) contains two articles on controversial practices: the custom, practiced in some parts of Pakistan, of offering of a young girl as "compensation" [sawara] in resolving tribal conflicts; and the so-called "honor killings." The authors argue forcefully that neither practice is sanctioned by the Koran or has a basis in the Shari'a. The author of the piece on honor killings, Iman Abd Al-Rahim, suggests that the practice is tribal in origin, and argues that the punishment for fornication should be applied equally to men and to women.

     

     

    Al-Tab'a Al-Jadida ("The New Edition")

     

    For westernized Iraqis, men and women, there is the illustrated glossy weekly Al-Tab'a Al-Jadida, published by the Rafidain Information Agency. On the cover of its March 13 issue, the magazine lists the three most important qualities of the ideal man in 2006-a well-padded bank account, a potbelly, and a smooth tongue. The front page brings advice on how a woman can make her lips "as tasty as chocolate."

     

    Inside, however, the magazine offers a number of reasonably well-presented interviews and articles. One is an interview by Kamal Muhammad with the unpredictable young cleric Muqtada Al-Sadr. Al-Sadr states that the Americans offered him the Iraqi presidency, but that he turned it down (though he fails to mention when the offer was made and by whom). .......

     

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    Al-Shabaka Al-Iraqiyya ("The Iraqi Network")

     

    This is another elegant illustrated weekly published by the Iraqi Information Network, a government agency. The fact that a glossy 81-page issue is sold for 500 dinars (about $0.35) suggests the price is heavily subsidized. In sharp contrast to the publications of Saddam's days, which were heavily adorned with portraits of the leader, this magazine hardly features pictures of Iraqi leaders. The cover of the third issue, from February 20, 2006, shows two young boys with the headline: "The kidnapped children."

     

    Kidnapping of children is so common in Iraq nowadays that the magazine describes it as "a profession that is not subject to the fluctuations of the dollar."(This refers to the fact that the kidnappers ask for the ransom in U.S. dollars.)

     

    The epidemic of kidnappings has even spawned special terminology. According to the magazine, gangs rely on inside information supplied by a "fallas" ("sniffer") .....

     

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    Al-Kawther ("Abundance")

     

    This magazine described itself as a cultural magazine published in Najaf by a Shi'ite religious foundation named "Ahl Al-Beit Foundation for General Education." [3]

     

    One article in the January 2006 issue discusses hunger in Iraq and ends with a powerful comment: "The previous regime put cotton wool in the mouths of the Iraqis so that they would not talk; today the [government] officials have taken this cotton wool out of our mouths [and put it] into their ears so they would not hear our complaints."

     

    Another article lists the external challenges facing the Iraqi government:

     

    a. Some countries, chiefly Iran, are not comfortable with the presence of the multinational forces in Iraq.

     

    b. Syria, which shelters the leaders of the previous regime, has provided them with money and weapons to harm Iraq.

     

    c. Turkey's concern about Kirkuk and any expansion of Kurdish autonomy.

     

    d. Kuwaiti concerns about Iranian infiltration of southern Iraq.

     

    The magazine also devotes an article to the famous secular Syrian poet Nizzar Qabbani. The author, Abd Al-Jawad Jaber Al-Husseini, states that because of his secular poetry, Qabbani's path to Allah is blocked.

     

     

    Al-Sharrara ("The Spark")

     

    A journal on education and politics published in Najaf by the Iraqi Communist Party. According to the editor, the magazine is named after Iskara, the first secret Marxist newspaper, which was established by Lenin in Russia in 1900. The inner flap of the cover bears the Communist slogan "Workers of the World Unite!" It should be pointed out that the secretary general of the Iraqi Communist Party, Majid Hamid Mousa, was elected for parliament as a member of the Iraqiyya party, headed by former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi.

     

    Al-Sharrara takes the classical Marxist view on political economy, arguing that unless all means of production are owned by the people, the relations between workers and their capitalist employers will be relations of exploitation, discrimination, and control. The January 2006 issue dwells at length on the principles of Marxism, but does not state explicitly that they are applicable to Iraq. It does, however, include an article against privatization.

     

    It is a matter of curiosity that the magazine is published in Najaf, center of Shi'ite indoctrination and scholarship.

     

     

    Al-Beiragh (colloquial form of "Al-Bairaq," meaning "The Standard")

     

    A monthly published in Najaf, devoted to popular culture. The issue February 2006 is devoted entirely to male poets. The poet Ahmad Al-'Adli describes poetry as "a meadow of flowers in which every poet represents a flower with a specific color and unique fragrance."

     

    Among the materials published is a short poem against smoking tobacco, by an unnamed poet:

     

    I smoked my first cigarette and I relieved my pain

     

    I smoked my second cigarette and I nursed my wounds

     

    I smoked my third no smoke rose

     

    The cigarettes have ended up smoking my soul

     

     

     

     

    Other Magazines

     

    There are also a number of magazines devoted exclusively to religious and theological issues. Al-Bassira ("Keen Insight") is a monthly Islamic magazine on education. It is most likely sponsered by Iran, since the November 25, 2006, issue prominently features a picture of a group of girl students, reporting that they excelled in their studies and were rewarded with a school trip to the Islamic Republic of Iran.

     

    Al-Nabaa Al-Adheem ("Striking News") is presented as a monthly devoted to spreading Islam. The print on the cover seems more Persian than Arab in style, suggesting that, like Al-Bassira, its funding probably comes from across the border.

     

  10. Salim,

    you said

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    A friend of mine told me that on Monday she went to her school in Eshreen street when she noticed the school be occupied by What she Called " Qaeda" militia !

     

    She also noticed that some Mosquea where also filled with what she called STRANGERS. She also told me that there many strangers who occupied some mosques and schools and asks locals or force them to donate money and food to them, so they can defend them .

     

     

    This is an excerpt from this very short article. Is your friend familiar with this district ?

    "Two terrorist groups beheaded two teachers in front of their students in the Amna and Shaheed Hamdi primary schools in Shaab district in Baghdad," a ministry statement said.

     

    http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....INGS.xml&rpc=22

    Anyway, as fast as this short article was reported, there was a fast denial response tucked away in a later article. Said the event never happened.

     

    But last month it happened to an English teacher.

    the event happened in Ramadiand

    was burried deep in another story about various events in Iraq;

    Sunday, March 26, 2006; Page A14

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    .......more violence was reported across Iraq, including a terrifying incident earlier in the week in the western city of Ramadi.

     

    On Wednesday, armed insurgents burst into the classroom of Khidhir al-Mihallawi, an English teacher at Sajariyah High School, accused him of being an agent for the CIA and Israeli intelligence and beheaded him in front of his students, according to students, fellow instructors and a physician at a local hospital.

     

    One teacher, who spoke on the condition that he not be named because he feared retaliation from insurgents, said that most students ran from the classroom but that some stayed to watch.

    Many stopped coming to school after the incident, he said.

    Another teacher, who said he moved his mathematics class to his home to accommodate frightened students, said Mihallawi had earlier been threatened because he worked as a translator for U.S. forces in Ramadi, a hotbed of the Sunni Arab insurgency.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6032501003.html

    His only crime was teaching English , he was not a spy of some imaginary zionist,imperialist forces of darkness.

     

    If the Iraqi government doesn't get their hous in order soon,

    only boys will be allowed to attend madrassas in some parts of Iraq.

    They teach the ways of darkness and destruction,not an English teacher,trying to educate his students in the best way to communicate and interact with the outside world.

     

    Will the forces of darkness destroy more teachers next month? Only to have our MSM ignore and bury it as not important to what liberal westerners need to know ? When people hear about beheadings in the west they think al Queda...many in the liberal west do not want to hear about beheadings in the news as it disturbs them :rolleyes:

    Hearing about these al Queda activities should be on the front page news but people in the west have political agendas and want to talk division at home if it will gain them power.

     

     

    Salim, could you follow up with your friend if her school on Eshreen street is near this school in the Shaab district ?

    There was a follow up story to the Shaab district that denied anything bad even happened at the school.

    Could those in charge of security in that district , if it was Iraqi or US, be embarrassed that it happened ?

     

    Of course, maybe it is possible it never happened but why would a Ministry of State for National Security go on record and say it happened at all?

    Iraq neighbors deny teacher-beheadings claim

    Ministry said 2 teachers 'slaughtered' in Baghdad primary schools

     

    MSNBC News Services

    Updated: 12:04 p.m. ET April 19, 2006

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Local police and neighbors of two Baghdad schools where gunmen had reportedly beheaded teachers in front of their students Wednesday said the slayings never happened, despite an official statement to the contrary.

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12342623/

    So where is the truth?

    If beheadings happen again,and it seems possible based on what happened last month,

    will the next story also be hidden so the west can ignore it?

  11. The president of Egypt, in his informal defensive comments in AlAkhabar newspaper, mentioned that he doesn't discriminate against Iraqis whether they were Muslims or Shia, etc.

     

    In his comment he’s even done more damage to his cause, he is discriminating against Shia by putting them in a different categories than Muslims.

    It is like you saying I don't discriminate between Catholics and Christians. Would that be acceptable by the Catholics?

    This proves to me how shallow those Arab leaders are.

    Is it possible he was misquoted?

    His quote;" he doesn't discriminate against Iraqis whether they were Muslims or Shia "

    It's almost like he was saying Sunni Arabs are at war with Persian Shia but not Arab shia.

     

    The Sunni arab leaders fear a nuclear Persia.

     

    I saw an article that Mubarak is rounding up political leaders and putting them back in jail.

     

    Now is it because of recent prisoner releases in Egypt and Saudi Arabia that a rise in attacks on Christians in Egypt has resulted?

    this is an al Jazeera article link.[/size]

    Second man dies in Egyptian unrest

     

    An Egyptian has died of wounds sustained during clashes between Copts and Muslims in the city of Alexandria as more communal violence marred Palm Sunday, medical sources and witnesses say.

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    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3F8...F900F0E270D.htm

    more at the link but I have two points.

     

    first

    The way I understand al Jazeera and how they report is this.

    What they will not say is;

     

    "An Egyptian Christian has dies of wounds sustained during a clash....."

     

    second

    Mubarak has a growing problem of unrest that will not be reported in the western MSM.

    The way al Jazeera reports it wothout adding their "editorial opinions" to the story is doing western MSM a favor.

     

     

    Denial isn't a river in Egypt ( but MSM can deny stories out of Egypt this Easter season )

     

     

     

    (The word "denial" and "the Nile" (river in Egypt ) sound very much alike in English ) -just meaningless play on words humor.

  12. http://radiosawa.com/article.aspx?id=843586

     

    In Arabic.. Education Iraqi minister " A sunni Arab" denounce the Egyptian president sattement. Alrawee said, 99% of Shia in the south are Arabs, the president might get fooled by some one..He said that if there is a possibility for civil war then it might be happened three years ago.

    Just an article about the Iraqi citizens taking issue with Egyptian president.

    And Mubarak doing a little "damage control".

     

     

    Thousands of Iraqi Shias demonstrate against Mubarak

    (AFP)

     

    15 April 2006

     

     

     

    NAJAF, Iraq - Several thousand Shias demonstrated in Iraq’s holy city of Najaf Saturday to denounce remarks by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak questioning whether their loyality lay with Iran.

     

     

    “Mubarak, traitor,” chanted the crowd assembed in the center of the city, also calling on Mubarak to “remove the Israeli flag”, a reference to the presence of an Israeli embassy in Egypt.

     

    On Saturday, Mubarak tempered his April 8 remarks to Al Arabiya television that Shias were more loyal to Iran than their own countries, by explaining that he meant it in religious terms, rather than political ones.

     

    “My remarks about Shias dealt with their religious loyalties and sympathies, without putting into question the patriotism of Shias in Iraq or any other country,” he told the government weekly Akhbar al-Yom.

     

    The comments were denounced by the governments of both Baghdad and Teheran, while the Shia imams described the 77-year-old Egyptian president as “ignorant” and “nostalgic” for the previous regime.

     

    Saturday’s demonstration follows on a smaller protest that came after Friday’s weekly prayers.

     

     

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle...ion=focusoniraq

  13. Iraq the Model mentions two theories why the attack was made on this particular mosque as well as its historical significance.

    He may be correct about the timing of the attack and why it worked. They hide,dressed like women.

     

     

    Friday, April 07, 2006

    The reason why they chose 'Buratha'.

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    But that's not the most important thing because

    this mosque is of considerable political significance, the preacher in this mosque is Jalal Addin al-Sagheer, a cleric from the SCIRI who was the first SCIRI member to publicly urge Ibrahim al-Jafari to withdraw his nomination for office.

    This mosque is one of the headquarters of the SCIRI and its clerical wing in Baghdad, even that Abdul Aziz al-Hakeem's son Ammar al-Hakkem preaches occasionally in this mosque when sheikh Jalal is not available.

     

    A military confrontation between the Sadr militias and the American (and possibly Iraqi) army is imminent and it's the Sadrists themselves who are pushing in this direction and preparing their forces for a battle they want to have to disrupt the political process and drag Iraq into an irreversible state of civil war.

    There are powers in the region that want this to happen, primarily Syria and Iran but I think they realized that a Sadr Vs. US battle is not enough and can only result in a big defeat for Sadr without reaching their desired objective of ruining Iraq.

    So, it is logical to think that Iran and Syria would try to drag as many Iraqi parties as possible into this battle and the first candidate they would choose would be the SCIRI, the powerful Shia party that is not getting along well with Sadr and has recently sided with the Kurds, Sunni and secular powers in calling for Jafari to step away and even considering forming a united political front with them.

     

    Another possible theory is that this attack is a warning message to the SCIRI that they must stay friends with Sadr, support Jafari and abort any plan to form a unity government with the Kurds, Sunni and secular parties.

    If either theory is correct, the attack is aimed at stopping Iraq from having a government and prolonging the instability for as long as possible.

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    http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

    He goes on to explain why it was a target of opportunity at the time of the bombing. Sending in "women" after prayer services were concluded .

  14. Today the moque is considered as a vert important historical importance. The place was existed before the build of Baghdad in the 800 BC.

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    I don't know if the Qaeda planners real intentions of choosing such important islamic mosque where both Sunni and shia gratly respect,

    but there is one historical incident that might high light some of the motives.. Imam Ali had passed through this while he was fighting Khawarig in Nahrawan.. Today a lot of Muslim historians accuse the current Salafaa Jihadest as a ncestors of Kharaig who legitimize killing of any one "moslim or not" if not following their sick idiology. Something similar to what these Jihadist believe. Khawarig's suicider did kill Imam Ali while praying in Kufa mosque. yester sadamist expolode a car in the grave yard of Alsam in Najaf, where Imam Ali shrine is.

    I know the above is not the real motives but the iginition of civil war.. However high lightinh some historical aspect is important.At the end these Qaeda terrorists are living their sick mind history.Not to criminal plans, such acts might go differently. I think this will bring Shia parties together. .

     

     

    Imam of Buratha mosque Shieck Jala Alsaghir , Iraqi perilement member and senior Shia coalition figure, calls for the governement to show take its responsibilties in protecting people and to activate anti terrorist laws.

     

    He accused the Sunni Assiciation radicle clergy Harith Aldharee of responsibility in this attack

    as

    his newspaper had published an article

    against the mosque couble of days ago.

     

    According to anti-terorist laws, any one encouraging terrorist actions is considered sharing the crime responsibility

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    The targets chosen may have historical importance but they are targets of opportunity as the best target with little protection. Doesn't Iraq have about 26,000 mosques or there about? Mot all can be protected with military fortress security.

     

    I wonder what, Imam of Buratha mosque, Shieck Jala Alsaghir would say in the future if these sadamist terror attacks managed to strike at Al Sistani himself ?

    I'm mean if the shrine al Sistani comes under much visable destruction, will the Shia accept responsibility for taking over security of all Iraq?

     

    Would such a target by sadamist be considered a major victory in creating a push to civil war but only push unity in the majority ?

     

    But anyway,

    did the Sunni Assiciation radicle clergy Harith Aldharee reply in a public statement about the comment made against him by Jala Alsaghir ?

     

    Or

    was the statement by the shieck, Jala Alsaghir , meant as a warning to a minority of followers of Harith Aldharee that the Iraqi government has "proof" to the identities of sadamists that may be sheltered by the Sunni radical clerics followers ?

  15. The dawa party leader Mr. jawad Almalikee , told Alarabia TV that the coalition Shia slate will have an important meeting tomorrow to finalize it decision about the PM candidate. From his tone I feel that there is a common understanding that the jaafree nomination will be changed. Mr. malikee name is circulated among some sources as a possible candidate.

     

    Is this Mr jawad Almalikee beating his own chest, looking to be the self proclaimed #1 canidate ?

     

    Salim,

    what kind of history/background check can you get on him ?( from inside Iraqi sources,not western MSM links )

     

    The person chosen has to make the herd decisions.

    Those hard decisions need to be made soon. The western media continue to paint with a broad brush the headline;

     

    " Iraqi government: FAILURE to launch "

  16. I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be broadcast or aired on television, and they broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.

     

    I found this a non responsible act by the islamic party to take benefit of others suffering. It might be due the surprise and they want to clear their responsibilty. Any how they should air that video. it was a shame. I noticed CNN/US local version in it's reporting today, never mention Caroll's comment regarding the last video arranged by the islamic party while they were very detailed yesterday about that video.!

    What I saw on western TV was a "silent shot" of who I suspect was an Iraqi Islamic Party official.

     

    What he was saying to her was never translated.

    He was opening up some sort of "gift" or "letter of recognition" and presenting it to her. I think she accepted it but the little exchange was never explained in the CNN or western MSM.

     

    Anybody know what that presentation of a gift was all about ?

     

    I think the party official really wanted the recorded presentation as a personal photo op for future political gain.

     

    What was the full text of the meeting ?

  17. Now that Jill has left those criminal hostage taker gangs,

    she is saying they forced her to make statements against the US

    Jill Carroll's Statement

    .......

    ....

    During my last night of captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me they would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and I wanted to go home alive. So I agreed.

     

    Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends _ all those around the world _ who have prayed so fervently for my release _ through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.

     

    I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be broadcast or aired on television, and they broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.

     

    Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One, that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military and two, that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true.

     

    ......

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/01/D8GNF0B00.html

     

    More at the link. I wonder how many western MSM organizations will want to interview her after she renounced her criminal gang hostage takers?

     

    Maybe Jill will never speak out or invited by western media to do so after this last comment.

  18. Iraq has an eastern gate that is true but those on the western and southern gatesshow fear and concern when Iran and US talk.

     

    Arab states move to bolster their presence in Iraq

     

    KHARTOUM, Sudan, Arab foreign ministers are set to agree to a proposal that would increase their diplomatic presence in Iraq.

     

    The draft resolution, which does not offer a timetable, is expected to be approved by the 22 members of the Arab League during a summit meeting here Tuesday and Wednesday.

     

    The Bush administration has urged Arab countries to open diplomatic missions in Iraq to help give the new Iraqi government legitimacy. But the ministers appeared to be less concerned about pleasing the United States than staving off the growing influence of Iran.

     

    In particular, the agreement this month between the United States and Iran to hold talks about the future of Iraq was viewed with alarm.

     

    "Who are they to decide on the future of a third country in the absence of Iraqis and the absence of the Arab world and the absence of everybody?" said Hisham Yousef, chief of staff of the Arab League.

     

    But Yousef said such discussions in the context of trying to help the Iraqis overcome their problems would be appropriate.

     

    The Iraqi foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, criticized the Arab countries for failing to support Iraq by not providing full diplomatic presence and debt forgiveness.

     

    "Why are you complaining about the Iranian role in Iraq when the Iranians are there and you are not?" Zebari said. "We have been asking for you to play a role for the past three years and you have not responded."

     

    Arab diplomatic missions have maintained minimal staffs in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 and particularly after three Arab diplomats were kidnapped and killed there last July.

     

    Iraq also remains saddled with billions of dollars in debt to Gulf states that helped finance the 1980-88 war with Iran. The Arab leaders are expected to discuss the issue of debt forgiveness this week.

     

    Eight heads of states, including President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, have skipped the meeting in Khartoum, where the government is under international pressure over the conflict in Darfur.

     

    The Arab leaders will also try to produce unified positions on other crises simmering across the Middle East, including the incoming Hamas-led Palestinian government, tensions between Lebanon and Syria, the Iranian nuclear program and the conflict in the Darfur region of Sudan.

     

     

    In another draft resolution, the ministers agreed to maintain Arab aid to the Palestinian Authority at $55 million a month. While the Arab League had previously agreed to that amount, its members have contributed only about $30 million.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/28/news/arabs.php

     

    Are the Arab powers more concerned with the status quo of fighting a proxy war,using the Palestinians as fighters against "an enemy all Arabs ( and Persians ) have in common".

     

    From the above article, if the Arab "gates" remain closed,

    there is no reason the Iraqi government should close an eastern gate that the Arab world fears.

  19. I saw an article by al Jazeera on this Mustafa mosque incident.

     

    an al Jazeera excerpt claims;

    Women and even the children were blindfolded and their hands bound. Some of their faces were totally disfigured.”

    http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10775

     

    They quote a source from the "Knight Ridder" newspaper . The paper was recently purchased by Rupert Murdoch. ( a man with pro democratic party links and he fired many at the paper when he took over )

     

    but here is another al Jazeera excerpt

    ...

    U.S. military said it’s currently investigating the reports,

     

    which came from Iraqi police, medical sources as well as Al Sadr aides.

     

    Those killed were worshipping at the time, according to a spokesman for the Mehdi Army.

     

    Al Sadr aide accused the U.S. of killing unarmed people at the mosque.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10827

    It doesn't add up.

    They said women and children were blindfolded and killed by US military?

    No, sorry. That is al Jazeera lies taken too far. American public isn't going to fall for such lies. Except those people who love reading Rupert Murdoch and what he puts in his papers and what he donates to the democratic party.

     

    Seems last week I saw a story about many Iraqi police uniforms were found during the raids in the last announced military operation.

     

    And they quote their stories from credible "Iraqi police" who were on site to witness the massacre.

     

     

    This is another recent story;

    U.S. Forces Arrest 40 Policemen in Raid

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi authorities said late Sunday that U.S. forces raided an Interior Ministry building and arrested 40 policemen after discovering 17 non-Iraqi prisoners in the facility.

     

     

    Police 1st Lt. Thayer Mahmoud said the arrested police were being held for investigation, but the reason was not known.

     

    Mahmoud said the U.S. forces remained at the building and were guarding the 17 foreigners.

     

    http://www.examiner.com/Top_News-a58717~U_...en_in_Raid.html

     

     

    another police story. Nobody like to give up power once they have tasted it;

    Iraqi police major held for death squad role

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi authorities on Sunday arrested a police major accused of taking part in death squads, Interior Ministry officials said.

     

    They said Arkan al-Bawi, who works in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, was detained after visiting the Interior Ministry.

     

    Sunni Arabs accuse the Shi'ite-led government of sanctioning death squads, a charge the government denies.

     

    Bawi, whose brother is the chief of police in Diyala, was accused of operating in death squads in Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad.

     

    Death squads are a taboo subject with the Iraqi government despite mounting evidence that they operate with impunity in a "dirty war."

    ........

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060326/wl_nm/iraq_arrest_dc

    more at the link.

    The Iraqi's need to purge ther government appointed officials and get them on public TV trial.

    Maybe a few Iraqi translaters and Iraqi news people will be able to better inform the western media sources whats going on inside Iraq.

  20. I don't know how accurate this blogger, "Iraq the Model" is with what the next step for Iraq is but it is a story that never gets any coverage.

    I posted most of the blog entry;

     

    Thursday, March 23, 2006

     

    Entering stage three.

     

     

    It's time again to go back to the political process in Iraq and shed some light on the latest developments regarding the discussions for forming the new government.

     

    Today, newspapers in Baghdad brought many relevant reports and statements given by politicians in the past day or two and most of them indicated that next Saturday will mark the beginning of what they called "the third stage" of the negotiations with a warm-up meeting scheduled for Friday (to eat some more lamb) and get ready for the next stage which is expected to be final and decisive.

     

    Leading figures from the four major blocs pointed out that earlier discussion had led to an agreement on 23 points (out of 26) from the suggested program of the government which according to Abbas al-Bayati from the UIA is largely a summation of 3 work papers presented by the UIA, Accord Front and the Kurdish Alliance.

     

    One of the most critical points that were agreed upon was the suggestion of establishing a 'national security committee' formerly referred to as the 'council of elders'. Adnan Pachachi from the Iraqi list and Nadeem al-Jabiri of al-Fadheela Party spoke in detail about the structure of this committee; the committee will be headed by the president and will have 19 members distributed as follows:

    The president and his two deputies.

    The prime minister and his two deputies.

    The chairman of the parliament.

    The president of the supreme federal court.

    The president of Kurdistan region.

    The heads of the major parliamentary blocs.

     

    And to further breakup the allocations:

     

    9 seats will go to the UIA.

    4 seats to the Kurdish Alliance.

    3 seats to the Accord Front.

    2 seats to the Iraqi list (Allawi).

    1 seat to the Dialogue Front (al-Mutlaq).

    It seems that the structure of this committee is already accounted for,

    yet the responsibilities, jurisdictions and mechanism of work are not as clear because while Pachachi said that "decisions will be made by a 2/3 majority from the members of the committee and decisions will be later submitted to the parliament [if requires a legislation] or to the cabinet [if requires execution] and all decisions made by this committee will be obligatory to its members as well as the permanent government"

    al-Jabiri said "it will not be only an advisory board or a coordinating entity but it will not be the highest authority in the country because that would be against the constitution…the decisions of this committee will be political and not constitutional in their nature".

     

    On the other hand AbdulKhaliq Zangana from the Kurdish bloc that these points are still being discussed and will not have a definite shape until negotiations resume next Saturday.

    ....

    .....

     

    Again, a lot of expected to come out from the next stage which starts on Saturday and the political editor at al-Sabah wrote this morning that "an informed source from the Accord Front told us that politicians will decide the name of the parliament's chairman will be decided by Saturday or Sunday and the next step will be discussing the nominations for presidency where there's a preliminary agreement on giving this post to Talabani…"

    The politicians here are trying to respond to internal public pressure and international pressure and above all, time pressure but this response still does not rise to the level of the challenge, which are least described as enormous.

    http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

  21. Here is a story that won't get musch air time in the west. It shows that the media concentrates on the bad and ignores the good.

     

    U.S. Military Asserts Most of Iraq Peaceful

     

    By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer

    42 minutes ago

     

     

     

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military spokesman in Iraq asserted Thursday that major violence is largely confined to just three of the country's 18 provinces,

    but fighting there raged on with at least 58 people killed in execution-style slayings, bombings and gunbattles.

    For the third straight day, Sunni insurgents hit a major police and jail facility — this time with a suicide car bombing that killed 25 in central Baghdad.

    ...

    ...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060323/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

     

    More at the link.

     

    Are the freedom fighters losing?

    If they are attacking Iraqi police stations and blowing up jails.....they ( Iraqi police) must be catching the real trouble makers.

    So, if the insurgents want to bust people out of jail...

    maybe their insurgent numbers are shrinking ?

  22. Moron99,

     

    Self-serving, uncompromising, greedy, stubborn, sectarian, nepotistic, and corrupt Iraqi politicians ...These are the people that Iraqis chose to lead them

     

    Would you please explain and give concret example on each of the above ineresting qualifications of Iraq new born political system "ignorant people that ellect bad representatives"!..

    I think what "moron" is hinting at is the "30 minute" government workout we in the west witnessed not long ago. :blink:

     

    As was mentioned in the western media, the Iraqi government adjourned 30 minutes after comming to order. :angry:

     

    this must not be allowed to happen again. <_<

     

    Americans do support the Iraqi people. We've spilled our blood and voted to "stay the course" in 2004. We didn't abandon the Iraqi's then,we still support them but

    we are not a crutch for the Iraqi government officials to lean on as a right to exist. The Iraqi people have to stick a red hot poker into the elected government officials.

    There are a few very important seats left to be filled.

     

    Those seats will be very powerful.

     

    ...and nobody wants to give up power after they have tasted it. ( I think that is what the problem is )

     

    Somebody has to get the government to sit down and get the process of taking responsibility for what has been happening the past several years, what must be done to fix it and who is going to take charge of the counrty and see it gets done.

     

    This must be done as soon as possible.

  23. Tonight I saw a national news program. I never watch the "CBS" network news much. Usually, anything said on TV is taken from internet stories that have been on line for a few hours if not a day or two.

    What was said on TV was outrageous !

    I searched the internet for stories to verify what they had said.

    Guess what? Nothing on the internet about their "breaking news" story.

     

    They are making up stories ! Making up stories is making up LIES to incite panic!

     

    They said US troops will be sent into Iraq. There will be an increase of troop levels due to the "civil war" outlook !

     

    The only story I found was one completely opposite!

    Airstrikes increase as troop numbers decrease;

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...aq/14098141.htm

     

    ........

    ...

    As for threatening of withdraw, I think this is the most stubid idea ever, it simply say to all parties that we are leaving and your race to take over should start taking a serious path!

    If Iraqi's are going to convene their new government and make decisions on purging "occupiers" out of their country with words and negotiations, I say;

    "Fine, start talking to each other on how it will be done. The US and coalition forces can't stay as "government proctors".

     

    The less all sides talk, the less of a chance the coalition troops should stay as protectors of the new government.

     

    The more the Iraqi's talk to each other, the more coalition forces will not be needed on the ground. The forces must fade into the desert, out of Iraqi sight,out of Iraqi mind until the Iraqi people se only Iraqi police,Iraqi army.

  24. al Jazeera article on al Sadr.

    Al-Sadr preaches restraint

     

     

    Muqtada al-Sadr has said he will not order his militia to strike al-Qaida fighters after Sunday's bombing of his stronghold in Baghdad because that would mean civil war.

     

     

    "I could order the Mahdi Army to root out the terrorists and fundamentalists but this would lead us into civil war and we don't want that," the Shia cleric told a news conference in the city of Najaf on Monday.

     

    ...

    ...

     

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/194...7DF4BC3DA80.htm

     

    He goes on to blame the US occupiers are more responsible than the al Queda occupiers for the recent bombings in Sadr city.

     

    I don't know what goes through his mind but is he wanting to offer a truce to the Sunni fighters?

     

    Is he asking them to purge their own militias of al Queda and in retun,

     

    He will not mistakenly attack innocent Sunni's ( who are trying to expel al Queda )

     

    Again, maybe al Sadr is only making a political move.

    He offers a truce to heal,regroup, reorganize and redeploy his own militia's ?

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