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[Guest Mustefser]

While I might accept the point of Tex in calling to deal on different bases when it comes to Terrorists who don't comply with war regulations, at same time I don't agree with analogy of allowing this on personal bases. It should be regulated through legal procedures. I remeber the Isreali governement issed a law , that allow certain extent of physical presure in interogations. Some thing to protect both the accused and the interigurator.

 

We need some similar regulations that the new Iraqi governemnt to issue..

[Guest Iraqi rebels turn on Qaeda in we]

Iraqi rebels turn on Qaeda in western city

Mon Jan 23, 12:23 PM ET

 

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi nationalist rebels in the Sunni Arab city of Ramadi have turned against their former al Qaeda allies after a bomb attack this month killed 80 people, sparking tit-for-tat assassinations.

Residents told Reuters on Monday at least three prominent figures on both sides were among those killed after local insurgent groups formed an alliance against al Qaeda, blaming it for massacring police recruits in Ramadi on January 5.

 

"There was a meeting right after the bombings," one Ramadi resident familiar with the events said. "Tribal leaders and political figures gathered to form the Anbar Revolutionaries to fight al Qaeda in Anbar and force them to leave the province.

 

"Since then there has been all-out war between them," said the resident in the capital of the sprawling western desert province of Anbar, speaking anonymously for fear of reprisals.

 

Local Iraqi officials confirmed residents' accounts of events but declined to comment publicly.

 

The bloodshed is the latest example of a trend U.S. military commanders and diplomats have been pointing to optimistically in recent months as a sign that some militants may be ready to pursue negotiable demands through the new Sunni Arab engagement in parliament after taking part in last month's election.

 

On Thursday, three local Islamist groups around Ramadi -- the 1920 Brigades, the Mujahideen Army and the Islamic Movement for

 

Iraq's Mujahideen -- also met to distance themselves from their fellow Islamists in Qaeda, joining the shift against al Qaeda led by more secular, tribal and nationalist groups.

 

The pan-Arab Al Hayat newspaper quoted a statement from six Iraqi armed groups on Monday announcing they had united to form the "People's Cell" to confront Zarqawi and preserve security in the Anbar province.

 

The statement condemned "armed operations which target innocents" and affirmed "a halt to cooperation with al Qaeda."

 

Both sides have distributed leaflets in the city of half a million claiming killings of opponents.

 

"Qaeda announces the killing of someone in the Revolutionaries and then the others announce they have killed someone in Qaeda," the resident said.

 

Another resident following events closely said: "The conflict is now clear between the militant groups and al Qaeda; the Anbar Revolutionaries who were formed after the attacks say they want to eliminate al Qaeda from Anbar."

 

SUICIDE BOMBINGS

 

It comes at a time when violence by al Qaeda, committed to a single Islamic state in the Arab world, slackened in Anbar and increased further east, notably in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, where the Iraqi military has alerted troops to be on the lookout for al Qaeda in Iraq's leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

 

Saddam Hussein's secular Baath party, others loyal to tribal chiefs -- have voiced increasing frustration with the tactics of al Qaeda in Iraq; keen for a say in parliament, they warned al Qaeda not to attack Sunni Arabs going to vote in the December 15 election.

 

 

The international Islamists' suicide bombings, especially those targeting civilians, have been counterproductive, some other insurgent spokesmen have said in recent months. Though influenced by foreign leaders, most al Qaeda fighters are Iraqi.

 

Since U.S. forces overthrew Saddam's Sunni-dominated government in 2003, disparate Iraqi groups have made common cause with foreign Islamists like Zarqawi and their Iraqi supporters, seeking to force out U.S. troops and bring down the U.S.-backed government of Shi'ites and Kurds.

 

The foreign-backed groups have brought in young suicide bombers while local insurgents have provided explosives and intelligence; there are signs, however, that their goals may be diverging, with some nationalists seeing political negotiation in Baghdad as a way of attaining some of their goals.

 

Among victims of the killings in Ramadi, residents said, was Hameed Faisal, a university professor killed after the Revolutionaries denounced Qaeda leaders named Abu Khattab and Abu Maad. In a reprisal, residents said, a militant named Medhat Abu Mustafa was killed and Qaeda claimed the assassination of an Islamist leader, Nasser Abdul Karim, an opponent of al Qaeda.

 

U.S. Major General Rick Lynch said in Baghdad last week: "We are seeing examples of Iraqi rejectionists (nationalists) taking up arms and informing on terrorists and foreign fighters.

 

"We are seeing this in Ramadi."

[Guest Bremer's Book]

Bremer downplays policy disagreements even as book plays them upBY ANDREW MAYKUTHKnight Ridder NewspapersPHILADELPHIA - When L. Paul Bremer was the head of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, according to his newly released memoir, he called himself the "most threatened American official anywhere in the world."

In one episode in late 2003, he describes how his armored motorcade was ambushed in Baghdad. The window of his car blown out by a roadside bomb, Bremer and an aide ducked as bullets whipped through, and the driver sped off at 80 mph. Once clear, Bremer brushed himself off and resumed the conversation - he had been discussing Swiss travel.

That's a cool customer.

On Monday the retired diplomat swept through Philadelphia on a tour to promote his book, "My Year in Iraq." After a day of interviews with local reporters, he spoke to the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia Monday night at the Union League. Compared with dodging bullets in Baghdad, his Philadelphia encounters were quite civil.

Bremer's book is much more dramatic than Bremer in real life, where he comes across as a well-dressed, carefully spoken diplomat. His book plays up policy disagreements among Washington bureaucrats, and Bremer seems to be putting himself at a distance from the Iraqi occupation. But in interviews, he downplays those differences.

"I'm optimistic about Iraq. That's the bottom line," he said Monday in a meeting with the Philadelphia Inquirer Editorial Board. He said that Iraq had moved forward politically and that the economy was doing better than commonly reported. "We obviously have more to do on the security side," he said.

A growing number of voices are calling Bremer's memoir into question. He is facing more difficult questions on the talk-show circuit from critics who say his recollections of events in Iraq do not correspond with statements he made at the time.

Much of the controversy surrounds Bremer's contention that he had lobbied for an increase in troop levels in Iraq to counter the deteriorating security situation. This seemed to place Bremer in opposition to the Bush administration. Now Bremer is spending much time qualifying his criticisms and making sure his loyalty is unquestioned.

Much of the brouhaha may be a function of the publishing business - controversial books sell better, even if publishers have to manufacture the controversy.

In a recent interview on Fox News, the conservative commentator Sean Hannity criticized Bremer for making statements that "would be met with open arms by people that disagree with the president's policy."

"My purpose was not to try to take a position on the debate," Bremer said. "I happen to support the president. I supported the war. I believe we did a noble thing in liberating these Iraqis."

Hannity pressed on, blaming the publisher, Simon & Schuster, for focusing on the negative. "Every time you've been interviewed - every time - every press release refers to these confrontations, these disagreements."

Bremer: "Well, the book publisher is trying to sell the book. That's understandable. I would encourage your listeners to read the book, where they will find a balanced view of what happened."

In his book, Bremer appears to tweak Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, whom he calls an old friend. Before he arrived in Iraq in 2003, Bremer read a draft report by the Rand Corp. that suggested Iraq needed an occupation force of about 500,000 troops - about three times the number of foreign troops then in the country.

Bremer forwarded a summary to Rumsfeld. "I never heard back from him about the report," Bremer wrote.

In interviews, Bremer downplays the rift, saying that as a civilian administrator, he did not have the expertise to determine the right number of troops required to maintain control.

Bremer is consistent on a key issue: He says it would be bad to withdraw from Iraq just yet.

"I take the view that we shouldn't have a withdrawal plan," he told The Inquirer's editorial writers. "We should not have a deadline. We shouldn't have a timetable. We should rather have a strategy for victory, and our troop strength should be based on the progress we're making toward success."

The publication of the book has provided an opportunity for Bremer's critics to come forward, renewing debates about his decisions to decommission Iraq's military and to exclude former officials from Saddam Hussein's government from the occupation forces, depriving Iraq of many of its experienced officials. Bremer said he stood by those decisions.

Larry Diamond, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute at Stanford University who wrote a book called "Squandered Victory" about his time as a coalition adviser, said in a telephone interview Monday that Bremer "doesn't recognize that the biggest mistake was to have an occupation in the first place. ... "

"If you wanted to stabilize Iraq," Diamond said, "putting an American brand on the thing pretty much guaranteed there was going to be a violent resistance. But he fails to reflect

[salim]

This is a very serious report. There were a lot of talks about such conducts by those corrupted officials who were worngly encouraged by Mr. bremer and later UN Ibrahimee governement on the bases of allowing former Baathists technocrate. Today when such warrent is issued by the current governement , I feet that we start to move on the right truck..Let us wait and see.. By the way Meshaan was the partner of Auday Saddam and later Saddam's son in law in their Cigerate trading buisness and was removed from his post of Musol governer by Sunni Arab of Musol and not be the Americans who appointed him. That was before getting into the assemply as representative of some Arab Sunni of his tripe. He is not enflouncial in his tribe but succeeded to gather some thugs of former collegue in saddam militai to form a party that got three seats in the current assemply. Shiekh of Jubor tripe is the deputy of PM Aljaafree and he himself is part of the investigation against Mr. Mishaan.

 

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/05/international/middleeast/05corrupt.html?

 

Oil Graft Fuels the Insurgency, Iraq and U.S. Say

 

 

By ROBERT F. WORTH and JAMES GLANZ

Published: February 5, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Feb. 4 — Iraqi and American officials say they are seeing a troubling pattern of government corruption enabling the flow of oil money and other funds to the insurgency and threatening to undermine Iraq's struggling economy.

 

Insurgents have infiltrated the management of the Baiji refinery and have routinely terrorized truck drivers and stolen oil, an Iraqi official said.

 

Money intended to be used to protect the Baiji pipeline was stolen.

In Iraq, which depends almost exclusively on oil for its revenues, the officials say that any diversion of money to an insurgency that is killing its citizens and tearing apart its infrastructure adds a new and menacing element to the challenge of holding the country together.

 

In one example, a sitting member of the Iraqi National Assembly has been indicted in the theft of millions of dollars meant for protecting a critical oil pipeline against attacks and is suspected of funneling some of that money to the insurgency, said Radhi Hamza al-Radhi, the chairman of Iraq's Commission on Public Integrity. The indictment has not been made public.

 

The charges against the Sunni lawmaker, Meshaan al-Juburi, are far from the only indication that the insurgency is profiting from Iraq's oil riches.

 

On Saturday, the director of a major oil storage plant near Kirkuk was arrested with other employees and several local police officials, and charged with helping to orchestrate a mortar attack on the plant on Thursday, a Northern Oil Company employee said. The attack resulted in devastating pipeline fires and a shutdown of all oil operations in the area, said the employee, who was granted anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

 

Ali Allawi, Iraq's finance minister, estimated that insurgents reap 40 percent to 50 percent of all oil-smuggling profits in the country. Offering an example of how illicit oil products are kept flowing on the black market, he said that the insurgency had infiltrated senior management positions at the major northern refinery in Baiji and routinely terrorized truck drivers there. This allows the insurgents and their confederates to tap the pipeline, empty the trucks and sell the oil or gas themselves.

 

"It's gone beyond Nigeria levels now where it really threatens national security," Mr. Allawi said of the oil industry. "The insurgents are involved at all levels."

 

American officials here echo that view. "It's clear that corruption funds the insurgency, so there you have a very real threat to the new state," said an American official who is involved in anticorruption efforts but refused to be identified to preserve his ability to work with Iraqi officials. "Corruption really has the potential of undercutting the growth potential here."

 

An example of how the insurgents terrorize oil truck drivers occurred last month, as a 60-truck convoy of fuel tankers from Baiji that was intended to alleviate fuel shortages in Baghdad was attacked by insurgents with grenades and machine guns despite the heavy presence of Iraqi security forces. In some cases Iraqi guards on the Syrian border have been paid off to let stolen shipments through, and the oil is then sold on the black market, Mr. Radhi said.

 

Senior officials in Iraq's Oil Ministry have been repeatedly cited in the Iraqi press as complaining about what they call an "oil smuggling mafia" that not only siphons profits from the oil industry but also is said to control the allocation of administrative posts in the ministry.

 

The former oil minister, Ibrahim Bahr al-Ulum, told the London-based newspaper Al Hayat late last year that "oil and fuel smuggling networks have grown into a dangerous mafia threatening the lives of those in charge of fighting corruption," according to a translation by the BBC.

 

Mr. Ulum said in an interview with the television network Iraqiya that raids on "smuggling dens" in Baghdad had netted forged documents and tanker trucks.

 

The indictment against Mr. Juburi, who is now believed to be hiding in Syria, charge that he stole money intended to hire and equip thousands of guards in 2004 and 2005 to protect an oil pipeline running between Baiji and the northern city of Kirkuk, Mr. Radhi said. Iraqi officials also suspect, but have not proved, that Mr. Juburi funneled some of the money he was given to protect the pipeline to the insurgents who were attacking it.

 

 

An Iraqi Army battalion commander Mr. Juburi hired was arrested recently and accused of organizing insurgent attacks on the pipeline, said a high-ranking Iraqi official who is close to the investigation. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the indictment. It is not clear whether Mr. Juburi knew that the commander was helping plan the attacks, the official said.

An interactive guide to the first official results in the landmark elections.

 

Frequent insurgent attacks on the pipeline have been one reason Iraqi oil exports have plummeted over the past year. The mortar attack on Thursday that led to the arrests of oil company officials and police officials was described by Northern Oil company employees as one of the most damaging in years.

 

The battalion commander hired by Mr. Juburi was identified as Ali Ahmed al-Wazir, commander of the second battalion of the first brigade of the Special Infrastructure Brigades, based in the Wadi Zareitoun district, said the high-ranking Iraqi official close to the investigation. Mr. Juburi fled Iraq just before a warrant was issued for his arrest in late December, Mr. Radhi said. Mr. Juburi's son, Yazen Meshaan al-Juburi, has also been charged in the case and is believed to have fled with him.

 

Mr. Juburi's party, the Conciliation and Liberation Bloc, won three seats in December's elections. But the charges against him are not likely to affect the current negotiations over forming a new Iraqi government, Mr. Radhi said, because the party Mr. Juburi formed can nominate someone to replace him in the new National Assembly.

 

Mr. Juburi has long been a controversial figure in Iraq. He was once intimate with the family of Saddam Hussein, but joined other Iraqi exiles in calling for Mr. Hussein's overthrow after fleeing Iraq in 1989.

 

He claimed that he worked with American Special Forces in the weeks before the war in a covert attempt to undermine the Iraqi military, broadcasting calls to military commanders to lay down their arms from a television station in Kurdistan. He claimed to have taken control of Mosul by the outbreak of the war, but he was later ousted by American commanders.

 

Mr. Juburi's tribe, the Juburis, is powerful in Salahuddin Province, through which the oil pipeline from Baiji runs. Partly for that reason, Mr. Juburi was asked in 2004 to organize 17 battalions of soldiers to protect the pipeline. In January 2005, Mr. Juburi was elected to the National Assembly, becoming one of a few Sunni Arab members and a hard-line critic of the government, led by Ibrahim al-Jaafari. Iraqi and American officials say they believe that some members of the Juburi tribe are involved in the insurgency.

 

After attacks on the pipeline grew worse in 2005, a three-month investigation found that Mr. Juburi had hired only a small number of commanders, paying them to appoint hundreds of ghost soldiers on paper and funnel the salaries back to him, Mr. Radhi said.

 

Mr. Juburi's son, Yazen, was responsible for supplying food for the soldiers, and he appears to have pocketed much of the money allocated for that purpose, the Iraqi official said.

 

Oil smuggling is only one part of a broader corruption problem that ranges from small-scale kickbacks to major fraud of the kind that took place in Iraq's Defense Ministry, where investigators last August said they had identified more than $1.3 billion in misspent military contracts. Hazem Shaalan, who was defense minister under former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi and gave Mr. Juburi the job of protecting the Baiji pipeline, was charged with public corruption last year and is now living in London.

 

Not all the corruption is related to the insurgency. But American and Iraqi officials say its scale is so broad as to be a serious threat to Iraq's economic rebirth.

 

The Commission on Public Integrity has referred about 450 cases for prosecution, and it has more than 1,000 other cases under investigation, Mr. Radhi said.

 

The reports of corruption have set off a major reform effort in recent months, with American advisers assisting internal investigations and promoting new rules like requiring financial disclosure forms for government officials.

 

But the changes have often been stymied by intimidation and violence. Iraq set up a new post in each government ministry to do internal monitoring, the inspector general, but two of the officials were assassinated last year just as they were about to publicize the results of investigations. Six other employees of the Commission on Public Integrity have been killed, and the rest live in constant fear of retaliatory violence.

 

"When the corruption is large, people incline to terror," Mr. Radhi said.

 

Some of the officials in charge of fighting corruption appear to have been drawn into it instead. The Iraqi inspector general program has suffered from "significant missteps and lapses in progress," and several inspector generals have been relieved of their jobs pending indictments, according to a State Department report on Iraq's reconstruction efforts.

 

The threat of violence has also deterred many Iraqi journalists from reporting on corruption, despite a campaign by American officials, who have optimistically declared the week starting Feb. 19 to be Anti-corruption Week.

 

"We have talked to three editors in the past week about anticorruption stories," said an American official in Baghdad who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "They are afraid of getting whacked if they print them."

 

In other cases, anticorruption officials have helped to hide illegal behavior, joining what Mr. Radhi called "Mafia type" organizations within the government ministries.

 

The Iraqi government has begun requiring all employees to sign a code of conduct, and all high-level officials must fill out complete financial disclosure forms. But 40 percent of them have refused to do so, saying they fear that filling out such forms will be equivalent to telling kidnappers what ransom to charge, Mr. Radhi said.

 

There have been some successes, he said: eight government officials have been convicted on corruption charges and sentenced, though many more have escaped prosecution by fleeing to other countries.

[Guest Guest]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/06/internat...06enforcers.htm?

 

Have a look to how facts got tiwsted..!

The writer is saying that Salaman Bak is a sunni town and the Iraqi police is Shia forces.

Salamn Bak is a well known Shia city that Sadam used to encourage his secret police to get hold on it's palm farms by tigris. That is in his plan to circulate Baghdad by small towns of people loyal to him. This city witnessed the most brutal Sadamist qaida terrorist attaks on civilians of Salam bak . One of them was the killing of wholes fgamilies last year whom bodies were found floating in Azizizia.

The Iraqi police who raided the city were led by Sunni officers from ministry of Interior.!

 

Last year this twom was the most imprtant base hold of Zarqawee where field of training camp was found in one of the former Sadam seceret police farms!

 

The writer want us to believe that the riding onf Iraqi police on such strong hold is just a shia kiling of Sunni!So disgusting!

 

As Iraqi Shiites Police Sunnis, Rough Justice Feeds Bitterness

 

 

By SABRINA TAVERNISE

Published: February 6, 2006

SALMAN PAK, Iraq — When Shiite forces took over this Sunni town, they spread out and clamped down. Checkpoints sprung up. People suspected of being insurgents were driven out. A Shiite took over as mayor.

[Texas Gentleman]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/06/internat...06enforcers.htm?

 

Have a look to how facts got tiwsted..!

The writer is saying that Salaman Bak is a sunni town and the Iraqi police is Shia forces.

Salamn Bak is a well known Shia city that Sadam used to encourage his secret police to get hold on it's palm farms by tigris. That is in his plan to circulate Baghdad by small towns of people loyal to him. This city witnessed the most brutal Sadamist qaida terrorist attaks on civilians of Salam bak . One of them was the killing of wholes fgamilies last year whom bodies were found floating in Azizizia.

The Iraqi police who raided the city were led by Sunni officers from ministry of Interior.!

 

Last year this twom was the most imprtant base hold of Zarqawee where field of training camp was found in one of the former Sadam seceret police farms!

 

The writer want us to believe that the riding onf Iraqi police on such strong hold is just a shia kiling of Sunni!So disgusting!

 

As Iraqi Shiites Police Sunnis, Rough Justice Feeds Bitterness

 

 

By SABRINA TAVERNISE

Published: February 6, 2006

SALMAN PAK, Iraq — When Shiite forces took over this Sunni town, they spread out and clamped down. Checkpoints sprung up. People suspected of being insurgents were driven out. A Shiite took over as mayor.

 

That is the New York Times... they intentionally distort anything having to do with the War in Iraq as they share a blind hatered for Bush or anyting about the war in Iraq. ITs all designed to make any efforts of the Bush Administration pursuing the liberation of Iraq look bad... They have become the Democrats propaganda machine.

[Guest Embassidor]

http://www.wattan4all.org/viewarticle.php?...-20060223-12006

 

In Arabic.. An advice from Shia Iraqi American Nizar Hayder to Prsdent Bush.. Change your embassidor to Iraq..

[salim]

To day in a news confrence the ministery of interior announced the head lines of the high level investigation that had beed carried over by the three deputies "Suni Arab" . The results were as expected , all what the Libral westren media and Arab radical was not true. The 22 policemen were doing their job. And there is no such thing of accusing them of any such conduct as had beed reported earlier .The reprot dismiss any such allegations of the group being forming a death team.

The investigation was carried in Abo Ghraib prison under American supervision. I am wondering , to whom benifits the process of humilating Iraqi police.. We just notice the impact of keep weakening Iraqi forces,, It is clear that this drive local people to stand to protect their communities. That had happened clearly during the last crises..

[Guest Tomas friedman article]

http://www.asharqalawsat.com/leader.asp?se...1568&issue=9960

 

 

In Arabic , Tomas friedman translated article about what is wrong in Iraq. He thought all beacuase no enough troops in Iraq to control the country.

[salim]

What had happened today of attack on the Mustafa mosque in Baghdad is to be flaged as a moment of diverage .. This is not a mistake that can easily corrected. I think what had happened is all what Alqaeda and other terorrist wish to see.!

 

This need to get involvments by the higher authorities in Washignton.According to what is leaked till now proved one thing. The American military and embassy is inflatered by Sadamists ! A misleading leak by some one led Amaericans to support a an Iraqi unit "under name of Iraqi army"to attack prayers and kill 18 in most brutal way. It is very clear that there is some one withing the current American administration in Baghdad working hard to destroy what is left of the American reputation..

 

 

What Al iraqia TV is broadcasting life from the Mosque is really disturbing. There is no any sign of military resistance, just brutal killing and torturing .. I called many friends , they all agree that this development happened just after the significance progress by Iraqi political parties and was orchestrated with the Empassydor's speachs yesterday..

 

This a day where Iraq might go into some other way, some thing that we might all regret!!! I am so confused that I might need to revist

[salim]

PM Aljaafree is calling for calm until things get cleared .. He promised to carry a very fast investigation with general Kaisy and other Iraqi autorities about who is responsible of such criminal brutal act. He also promised to conpensate all victims families.. There were eldery as old as 80 years and youth as age of 12 among the parayers who attented the night pray .. There was a gathering in rememberance of the death of Prophet Mohamed which is celebrated every year. There were different attendees, including some representatives of aljaafree's Al dauwa party, some rep from alasder and ordinary people.

 

According to Perliment member Ali Alaadeep "Dauwa party leader" the Americans had got a false tip that there was aterrorist hiding in the Mosque, however it is not explainable the way the prayers got gathered in a room and tortured to death.. There was many bullets graps scatered around in the different rooms with victims got shot with handicoffed and bare chesses.. Signs of torture were clearly appearedt on the bodies as showed on Aliraqia who was the first statelite station that arrived after the leave of the attacking force. This incident came hours after what looks like mortar attack on the Alsader house in Najaf, some thing that was later appeared to be a voice bumb not a mortar shells as was explained by Interio ministery spokesman.

 

The sokesman also denied the news that a high rank officer was jailed on accusation of dealing with death squads. He said that these news that had been circulated in the media were totaly false.

 

On other incidents , iraqis got outraged by what looked like a raid by an American unit to one prisons and freed 17 Arab qaeda prisoners. According to that news , americans also put in jail the 40 police guardmen who are runing that goverment jail .. Complete chios that no one knows who is resposible..

 

I don't know if the jail incident is correct, but if so it will ignite a lot of those consiperacy theories circulating these days among Iraqis that what looks like Zarqawee is no more than an agent working on behalf of some group within the american authorities in Baghdad that work for their own agenda.. The consipiracy theory went more to say that such group is working for Isreali Musad agency which is very worried of outcomes of Iraq democracy.. Those people who believe such stories argue that how come Alzarqawee "a palestinan origin Jordanian" can mobilize all those Palastains suiciders and bring them from Ain Alhilwa camp and Jordanian camps to Iraq while he is not able to commit even one minor operation against the Isrealis with such long boarder with Jordan!

 

I am trying here to explain what ordinary Iraqi feelings to help others understand the seriousness of such act swhen you raid a government prison to free alqaeda Arab " Mujahideens" who are killing Iraqis kids and civilans!

[Airedale]

I saw an article by al Jazeera on this Mustafa mosque incident.

 

an al Jazeera excerpt claims;

Women and even the children were blindfolded and their hands bound. Some of their faces were totally disfigured.”

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10775

 

They quote a source from the "Knight Ridder" newspaper . The paper was recently purchased by Rupert Murdoch. ( a man with pro democratic party links and he fired many at the paper when he took over )

 

but here is another al Jazeera excerpt

...

U.S. military said it’s currently investigating the reports,

 

which came from Iraqi police, medical sources as well as Al Sadr aides.

 

Those killed were worshipping at the time, according to a spokesman for the Mehdi Army.

 

Al Sadr aide accused the U.S. of killing unarmed people at the mosque.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10827

It doesn't add up.

They said women and children were blindfolded and killed by US military?

No, sorry. That is al Jazeera lies taken too far. American public isn't going to fall for such lies. Except those people who love reading Rupert Murdoch and what he puts in his papers and what he donates to the democratic party.

 

Seems last week I saw a story about many Iraqi police uniforms were found during the raids in the last announced military operation.

 

And they quote their stories from credible "Iraqi police" who were on site to witness the massacre.

 

 

This is another recent story;

U.S. Forces Arrest 40 Policemen in Raid

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi authorities said late Sunday that U.S. forces raided an Interior Ministry building and arrested 40 policemen after discovering 17 non-Iraqi prisoners in the facility.

 

 

Police 1st Lt. Thayer Mahmoud said the arrested police were being held for investigation, but the reason was not known.

 

Mahmoud said the U.S. forces remained at the building and were guarding the 17 foreigners.

 

http://www.examiner.com/Top_News-a58717~U_...en_in_Raid.html

 

 

another police story. Nobody like to give up power once they have tasted it;

Iraqi police major held for death squad role

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi authorities on Sunday arrested a police major accused of taking part in death squads, Interior Ministry officials said.

 

They said Arkan al-Bawi, who works in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, was detained after visiting the Interior Ministry.

 

Sunni Arabs accuse the Shi'ite-led government of sanctioning death squads, a charge the government denies.

 

Bawi, whose brother is the chief of police in Diyala, was accused of operating in death squads in Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad.

 

Death squads are a taboo subject with the Iraqi government despite mounting evidence that they operate with impunity in a "dirty war."

........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060326/wl_nm/iraq_arrest_dc

more at the link.

The Iraqi's need to purge ther government appointed officials and get them on public TV trial.

Maybe a few Iraqi translaters and Iraqi news people will be able to better inform the western media sources whats going on inside Iraq.

[salim]

Today seems the minstry of interior is dedicating it officer to deny news. General Kamal of the minstery also deny the find of 30 killed people in Diala province that was reproted earlier by different news media.

 

As for Aljezera reproting, I never heard any confrmation to any women envolvment among the victims..

[Guest Guest]

Below is what was announced in Arabic about the raid.. The military said that the "Special Iraqi forces" was involved and that was to release a kidnapped Iraqi who was released , also confirmed that 16 people were killed and 18 captured in the attack.

 

This announcement is totaly contradicting the scene evidences where the place was a mosque and no sign of any resistance by the victims appeared. Also the announcement didn't say who is this "Special forces" are they the death squad teams ? The govenment said it had no info about the operation, so why they call them Iraqi special forces..? Are they some newly hired Republican gaurds members? They way they used in killing people tells that they had a different motives than releasing a kidnapped. I remember the American action movies, where a police killed so many inocents just to capture a criminal who steal couble dollars from a stiore.. Are we watch another American action one?

 

Please calrify.. Such announcements makes things much worse.. Don't loss harts of Iraqis after what some of you work so hard to loss their minds !! A message to President Bush, please do some thing..

 

 

 

الجيش الامريكي:عمليات شمال شرقي بغداد استهدفت متمردين

 

بغداد/نينا/اعلن الجيش الامريكي:"ان جنودا من الكتيبتين الاولى والثانية من لواء قوات العمليات الخاصة العراقية قاموا بعملية منسقة شمال شرقي بغداد يوم أمس واعتقلوا متمردين متورطين في نشاطات اختطاف وقتل". وقال بيان للجيش الامريكي صدر وتلقت الوكالة الوطنية العراقية للانباء/نينا/نسخة منه اليوم الاثنين:"ان أفرادا من المغاوير وجنودا من قوة مكافحة الارهاب قاموا بقتل ستة عشر متمردا وجرحوا ثلاثة اخرين خلال عملية بحث عن احد الاهداف واعتقلوا أيضا ثمانية عشر فردا آخرين واكتشفوا مخبأ مهما للأسلحة وأنقذوا احد الرهائن العراقيين". واضاف:"ان قوات الامن العراقية من قوات العمليات الخاصة تعرضت الى اطلاق نار على الفور من مبان عدة قرب منطقة الهدف وقام الجنود بتأمين محيط المنطقة مما مكن القوة المهاجمة من التحرك بسرعة لاخلاء الهدف وتأمينه وعدة مبان في الاعظمية شمال شرقي بغداد". واوضح البيان:"ان مخبأ الأسلحة الذي تم اكتشافه احتوى على 32 بندقية اي كي 47 وخمسة قنابل يدوية واربعة قذائف ار بي جي وقاذفتين ار بي جي واثنين من أسلحة ار بي كي الثقيلة ومواد تستخدم لصنع العبوات الناسفة بالإضافة إلى العثور على قذائف ذخيرة اذ تم تدمير المخبأ في المكان مع مركبتين تحتويان على أسلحة ومواد لصنع العبوات الناسفة". وبين:"تم اختطاف احد الفنيين في صناعة الاسنان في وزارة الصحة أمس بينما كان خارجا من مكان عمله". وأضاف:"في غضون الـ 12 ساعة اللاحقة قام مختطفوه بضربه وهددوا بتعذيبه وبعد ان قامت قوات العمليات الخاصة بانقاذه تم اصطحابه الى مكان لم يعلن عنه إذ تلقى العناية الطبية من اطباء عراقيين". وأشار البيان إلى:"إن معلومات إضافية لم تتوفر عن حالته إلى هذا الوقت." وأفاد:"إن أيا من أفراد القوات العمليات الخاصة او القوات الامريكية لم يقتل خلال العملية وجرح جندي من قوات العمليات الخاصة في ذراعه ولم تكن اصابته خطرة بينما تلقى ثلاثة من المتمردين العلاج في مكان الحادث." واوضح البيان:"تم التخطيط والتنفيذ لهذه العملية من قبل قوات العمليات الخاصة العراقية وتم تقديم المشورة من قوات العمليات الخاصة الامريكية وتم التنفيذ في وقت معين لتقليل المخاطر على المارة من العراقيين الأبرياء وتقليل الاضرار". وبين:"لم يتم الدخول الى اي مسجد او التسبب في اضرار لأي مسجد خلال العملية"./انتهى

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4848870.stm

Is this what American authorities in Baghdad looking for?

 

 

Relatives have begun burying the bodies in funerals marked by anger and bitterness.

 

"No one is protecting us," shouted one distraught mourner, Hamid Taayab, who said only radical cleric Moqtada Sadr's Mehdi Army militia prevented Iraqis "being slaughtered in our homes".