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Why doesn't Aliraqia Tv put together this public show in a western style documantary form and translated into the English language ? Would western media be afraid to televise such a program to America if Aliraqia Tv made such an offer ? Americans are only told bad news. Even this story of 13 being hanged made it sound like a it was a barbaric "Cowboy justice, night time raid".

Only one name out of the 13 hanged was released in the west. Iraq hangs 13 insurgents Deaths mark first executions of militants since U.S.-led invasion BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi government said 13 insurgents were hanged Thursday in the first executions of militants since capital punishment was reinstated in Iraq after the end of the U.S. occupation. The Cabinet announcement listed the name of only one of those hanged, Shukair Farid, a former policeman in the northern city of Mosul, who allegedly confessed that he had worked with Syrian foreign fighters to enlist fellow Iraqis to carry out assassinations against police and civilians. “The competent authorities have today carried out the death sentences of 13 terrorists,” the Cabinet said. It said Farid had “confessed that foreigners recruited him to spread the fear through killings and abductions.” A judicial official said the death sentences were handed down in separate trials and were carried out in Baghdad. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11744259 Is any information on this matter being released in Iraq ? Is anyone familiar with Shukair Farid, a former policeman in the northern city of Mosul? Why did they hold the names of the other 12 ?

Salim, Your posts are short but full of more important information than we get anywhere in the west; Good post Salim, The old dinosaur MSM won't give us this the of coverage and style you have. thanks. I like your style My only comment on what may happen in the distant future is this; With a newly formed government, many current politicians want to become career government employees. They may have themselves as their most important concern. The individual politician must not grow comfortable with power... they may aquire a taste for power and won't give it up easily.

SOme news on Sunni Tribes turning on their friends the foreign al Queda "freedom Fighters" The foreign fighters have given up killing coalition forces,Iraqi military and police and concentrate on killing civilians who once supported them. The Sunni sympathizers have become the only SOFT TARGET that they can strike? SO now, the Sunni Tribal civilians are ready to turn . Iraq's Hawija Sunni tribes declare war on Zarqawi Tribal leaders vow to fight all those who attack their sheikhs and clan leaders, including Al-Qaeda. HAWIJA, Iraq - Faced with attacks against their sheikhs and clan members, a number of Sunni tribes from Hawija – an insurgent bastion in northern Iraq - have declared war on Al-Qaeda's frontman in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. "We shall fight all those who commit such attacks, notably Al-Qaeda," the tribal leaders said in a statement that has been circulating around Hawija. In the last month-and-a-half, the head of Al-Nuaim tribe, Ibrahim Al-Nuaimi, and one of the heads of the powerful Jubur tribe, Ahmad Mehdi Saleh, have been assassinated in this Sunni rebel bastion, 220 kilometers (137 miles) north of Baghdad. ... ..... It is a terror campaign against our leaders," Sheikh Abdel Rahman al-Assai, head of the Obaidi tribe, said. "We are not going allow them to silence us and do this to us. The resistance opposes the occupation and is an Iraqi affair. "Terrorists and Takfiris (Sunni extremists) kill, kidnap and terrorise our people. We cannot accept this," he said. He felt it was legitimate to kill these men as they belong to "Zarqawi and such groups." .... ..... The tribal leaders said groups linked to Zarqawi were carrying out attacks on the "army, police, oil and gas pipelines and technicians which harms the interests of Iraq." "We never offered refuge to terrorists. All those who offer shelter to terrorists will be treated like terrorists," their statement added. "We reject violence and the murders of civilians in the Arab areas." "These dark forces strike all religious people and their symbols," a local Hawija council member Hussein Ali al-Jubur said. Attacks on Iraqi security forces also delays the withdrawal of foreign coalition troops, he noted. .... ..... The call to arms by the tribes was welcomed by General Anwar Hama Rahma, head of the Iraqi military in Kirkuk who offered his full support to their fight against Al-Qaeda insurgents. The new stand by Sunnis around Hawija mirrors that to the south in Samarra, where the killing of a key tribal sheikh last October had strained ties between Qaeda fighters and locals, although the sides have since reportedly brokered a truce. The US military has also reported clashes between nationalist insurgents and Al-Qaeda in Al-Anbar province, considered a bastion of rebel violence. more at the link http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=15914

Could this article be a hint as to who or what group is responsible for the explosion at the mosque and those responsible for trying to start the " civil war" the western media talks of? Will the liberal western media print this story widely for many to read ? I say no. It is not a story of division and failure. It is a story that would show the opposite of a civil war. It would be a sign of a war of unity to evict those that want to form their own nation and to rule using religion as the only law. Iraq needs freedom FROM religion and a purge of "the unwelcome" ,m not civil war, seems underway. Certain tribes that were tricked into thinking al Queda was the way to force coalition forces out may be free to stand with fellow Iraqi's and drive them out !

Here you go Moron99, http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/#2 Theory #2 on a list of speculations Sorry to all others, I only don't know if there is an Arabic translation for the link Theory 2: The Reichstag Theory Perpetrator: The Mehdi Army (aka Sadr's Thugs) Purpose: To have a cause-celeb to rally their faithful, sweep them into power, and purge the Sunni Arabs and other infidels from Iraq. In 1933 Germany, just before an election in which the Nazis were running on an anti-Communist platform, Hitler sent his thugs to set fire to the German government building and symbol of its democracy, The Riechstag. The Nazis blamed the Communists and used the event to sweep Hitler to power. There is a lot to recommend this theory: All the stories of black pajamas attacking Sunnis all over Baghdad. It has a proven history of success. Who believes this story? Errr...hard to say. Everybody and nobody. It's doesn't seem to be in any Iraqi's interests to buy this story. Even those who see Sadr as culpable prefer to see him as an arm of the Jaffari's Internal Ministry or Iran. But there are some exceptions: IraqPundit seems to see Sadr behind this. Anyway,Omar at Iraq the Model, senses in the Iraqi Defense Ministers most recent statement that he is through jacking with Sadr's thugs: The defense minister added that they are working in the government on activating the counter-terrorism laws which includes "arresting anyone who's found guilty of provoking violence". (emphasis Omar's) hope Omar is right. We'll see. Personally, though, this theory is my favorite backup theory. the other theories; Saturday, February 25, 2006 Who Did It? Theory 1: The Chaos Theory Theory 3: The Government Plot Theory Theory 4: The Tehran Theory Theory 5: The Great Satan Theory I say the clerics of the mosque must be closely watched and interviewed. They have to have an inside opinion as to why it was bombed and why no injuries resulted. my theory #6, The Frustration of strange bed fellows Things are not panning out for a certain group that was cooperating with Saddam .... .... during his reign

I am wanting to know from people in Iraq if anybody was killed in the blast. With such a toppling of that dome,were any people injured? Inside Iraq, still no claims of repsonsiblity for the blast ? In the west it was reported no deaths. one comment; Speculation. Is it possible that whoever actually did bomb the mosque can not go public and say "Somebody else for certain did it" They can't "pin it" on any other group as it may be to dangerous to their own groups protection or themselves ? Could anti government 'groups', that have been working closely together, be ready to part ways ? The Beriut Lebanon bombing and killing of politician last year is what it almost reminds me of. Not a precise fit but nobody took responsibility for Hariri's killing either, did they ? Could it be Saddams own baathist party members ? Are they any closer to finishing that "trial" of Saddams ? If this was an attempt to bring back Saddam.... not going to happen. My opinion means nothing. Only those inside Iraq can weigh the evidence, listen to "the word on the street" and come to a better conclusion. I do not have a clue except maybe , those that were once closely unified in a cause to stop events in Iraq may be about to cut each others throats to save themselves.

I heard on the radio two days ago a statement I find hard to believe. Nobody was killed in the bombing. OK, so a few people,dressed in Iraqi police uniforms storm in, plant the bombs and they go off! But nobody was killed ? Is that true? Was anybody injured ? A Sunni controlled mosque is targetted as if IED's were placed by "freedom fighters" and the western media never gave a "body count" of that sensational blast. Truely, it was intended to be a media event. Precisely staged with great care and organized by sombody "on the inside". ( with or without direct permission of the mosque's Sunni clerics ) It had to be an "inside job" but which "inside" group would take great pains to make sure nobody would get killed in a country where IED's are reported daily by the western media? As for the reference to the Reichstag comparison, blowing up the Reichstag was an attempt to gain the nazi's more credibility,more legitimacy, was it not ? I would like those inside Iraq to give their opinions as to why the western media reported nobody was killed in the bomb blast. What are the odds nobody was killed?

Correct me if I'm wrong but, Wasn't Mohamed a buisnessman at some time in his past ? Yes, the merchants that currently hold goods from Denmark won't be able to take care of their own families if they are punished by a boycott. Well that will certainly teach the Danes!

I don't see the relation. Indeed it was a circus that even the secular Kadafee and Bashar Alasad is play in . I think that Iran is trying to get benefits of it too.. It is a political dirty game that every one try to get most of it.. The middle east rulers have to be carefull in how mush "freedom to protest" they give to the population. This protesting "freedom" is new to them,isn't it? It is ok to protest in the name of Islam but .....are people going to want to make demands from their governments? What is going on is an excersize in democracy. People are out making protests against other parts of the world....... .....But. What if they start to protest against their own leaders? Will public protest calls demanding jobs,jobs Jobs,from the government or demands for more representation in the government be allowed by the leaders that gave them freedom to protest the European papers cartoons?

You see, it is about "smoke and mirrors. Not long ago in the west, an audio tape that claimed to be the words of Osama bin Laden, was released by al Jazeera. He spoke of attacks against the west. Is this bin Ladens attack threat? This "propaganda" being released by Saudi Arabia, is it really an information attack in the terror war? Are the Saudi's trying to stir up muslims who are brainwashed by what the Sunni islamists preach to them? The Sunni minority in Iraq are yeilding power to the majority SHia. Are Saudi leaders feeling threatened by a Shia nuclear power Iran? Are they trying to join forces with the saying; "The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Maybe not. I think the terrorists are trying to get american news papers to print the cartoons so they can go back to their brain-dead followers and say; " See !! The great Satan and Zionists are planning to destroy Islam ! In the west, I do not think any papers are going to print the pictures. Why? Because the newspapers know americans can easily search the internet and find them . We in america do not rely on the PRINT media anylonger for our only source of information. These cartoon abominations are being made up to rally support for failing leaders in the region . Smoke and mirrors to hide bigger problems in the middle east.

.....people in the world think of Prophet Mohamed as resmblence to Bin Ladin face! Here is an article about the cartoon pictures from Denmark. It states many of the pictures were fake. The muslim world was shown MORE pictures that were NOT published in the paper BUT they claimed that THEY WERE put in the papers ! That is not an honest thing to do The story of "extra" cartoon pictures was first made public last November. But why did it take three months gor the story to "get traction" and start rolling to upset the muslim world? al Jazeera didn't running it until last week ? There is more to this story than "the story of a few cartoons". article excerpt; ... ... Last November, Abu Laban, a 60-year-old Palestinian who had served as translator and assistant to top Gamaa Islamiya leader Talaal Fouad Qassimy during the mid-1990s and has been connected by Danish intelligence to other Islamists operating in the country, put together a delegation that traveled to the Middle East to discuss the issue of the cartoons with senior officials and prominent Islamic scholars. The delegation met with Arab League Secretary Amr Moussa, Grand Imam of Al-Azhar Sheikh Mohammad Sayyed Tantawi, and Sunni Islam’s most influential scholar, Yusuf al Qaradawi. "We want to internationalize this issue so that the Danish government will realize that the cartoons were insulting, not only to Muslims in Denmark, but also to Muslims worldwide," ... ... ..the Danish Muslim delegation showed much more than the 12 cartoons published by Jyllands Posten. In the booklet it presented during its tour of the Middle East, the delegation included other cartoons of Mohammed that were highly offensive, including one where the Prophet has a pig face. But these additional pictures were NOT published by the newspaper, but were completely fabricated by the delegation and inserted in the booklet http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_count...cated_cart.html The link is a blogger web page but he gathered up the stories by posting links of his own.

Western cartoon humor; Hello Imams, we have an Image Problem http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/06.01...geProblem-X.gif Don't take it soooooo personally. Even a poll at al Jazeera states boycotts against Denmark are not the best way to behave http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/poll/main...0vote%20once%20 Global Poll Do you back Muslims’ calls to boycott Danish products in response to blasphemy cartoons? Yes ( 32 %) No ( 68 %)

Anti-Qaeda protest in Iraq, local anger mounts 24 Jan 2006 17:03:50 GMT Source: Reuters SAMARRA, Iraq, Jan 24 (Reuters) - Hundreds of Iraqis staged a demonstration in the restive city of Samarra on Tuesday in a show of defiance against al Qaeda militants they blamed for killing dozens of police recruits last week. Nationalist rebels and tribal leaders in the city north of Baghdad had already let it be known they were joining forces to try to expel the foreign-influenced Islamists from the area, part of a trend in Sunni Arab areas that U.S. commanders have pointed to optimistically as a sign of political development The protesters, estimated by police to number 700 to 1,000 and organised by the Iraqi Islamic Party and Muslim Scholars Association, major forces in Sunni politics, accused al Qaeda of killing some 40 local men who were hauled off a bus near Samarra last week after leaving a police academy in Baghdad and killed. The killing late last year of the head of one of the city's main tribal leaders had prompted an alliance against al Qaeda involving local nationalist insurgents, residents said, similar to movements seen in other Sunni strongholds. ..... ..... Samarra appears less tense but residents following the situation closely said on Tuesday that anger among people in the city is increasing against al Qaeda, whose Jordanian leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is said by Iraqi defence chiefs to have moved from around Ramadi to Diyala province, just east of Samarra. They said it began when Qaeda members killed the popular sheikh Hikmat al-Mumtaz, head of the Albu Baz tribe in Samarra, who had spoken out against insurgent attacks on civilians, such as al Qaeda's suicide assaults on Shi'ite neighbourhoods. His tribesmen force confessions from suspected killers and publicised their supposed links to al Qaeda around the city. more at the link http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/KAR442735.htm I think the Sunni's see that al Qaeda failed to deliver anything but death on Sunni's in the province that gave them safety.

US officials in talks with Iraqi insurgents NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. officials have been talking with local Iraqi insurgent leaders to exploit a rift between homegrown insurgents and radical groups such as Al Qaeda, The New York Times reported on Saturday ... ... According to interviews with insurgents and both U.S. and Iraqi officials, clashes between Iraqi groups and al Qaeda have broken out in several cities across the Sunni Triangle and they appear to have intensified in recent months, the Times said. A Western diplomat who supports the talks told the Times that the Americans had opened face-to-face discussions with insurgents in the field, and were also communicating with senior insurgent leaders through intermediaries. ... .... The diplomat said the goal was to take advantage of rifts in the insurgency, in particular those between local groups, whose main goal is to expel U.S. forces, and more radical groups like al Qaeda, which have alienated many Iraqis with violent campaigns that have resulted in mass killings of Iraqi civilians. ... ... Tarik al-Hashimy, the leader of the Iraqi Islamic Party, who said he was in periodic contact with insurgent leaders and had asked them to hold their fire during the elections, told the Times he did not think the talks had made much progress... ... ... The diplomat did not specify which groups the Americans were speaking to, but the Times said it seemed likely that they included groups like the Islamic Army in Iraq and Muhammad's Army, which are believed to comprise mainly Iraqi nationalists and former members of Saddam Hussein's Baath Party. Insurgents told the newspaper that there is widespread hatred for al Qaeda among ordinary Iraqis. Abu Amin, an insurgent leader in Yusefiya and a former captain in the Iraqi Army, told the Times the Americans were especially interested in securing help against al Qaeda, about whom they asked many questions: "Do you have a relationship with? Can you help us attack al Qaeda? Can you uproot al Qaeda from Iraq?" http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060107/pl_nm/...a_insurgency_dc My questiom is this; Will the new government's first order of buisness be a sweeping change in the amnesty program ? Will the Sunni minority in government demand and receive a chance to offer a larger amnesty program to the ex Baathist party and Republican guard leaders in return for Saddam and post Saddam era crimes comitted against the majority ?

I think what you meant to say was that the site was hijacked by someone that " Has no life " Anyway, I stopped in to wish you, "#1", ( and everyone else, even the dirtbag trolls ) Happy New Year http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/...r1823549213.jpg http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/SINGAPORE_...51231134458.jpg A toast to 2006, "Better Days Ahead"

just stopped in to say hello to you baghdade.

I was told posting actual pics on this forum makes it hard for some people with less reliable internet connections to open up the website. It slows down their computers. The link is a map of Syria. There is arabic on the bottom.I am wondering what the words translate to in English Thak you for the assistance. http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd/WMD-location-map.jpg

The only ones really screaming for a US withdrawal is the US MSM. Of all the Iraqi issues ignored by MSM, the only news worthy to be printed in america seems to be this demand to leave Iraq. The only Iraqi voices worthy of quoteing in the western MSM are the baathists minority demanding US withdrawal. Oh freedom fighters demanding withdrawal is also given front page headlines....never mind the headless bodies MSM refuses to mention are part of the torture tactics used by the fredom fighters to keep loyal followers in line.

Many polling stations couldn't open in the Anbar province under the threat of "Sharia Law" invoked by freedom Fighters. My question is this; If 95% voted 'NO' at the stations that did open in anbar province.... would there be talk of voter fraud by the MSM (main stream media ) ?

hey redline Do you remember some time ago when Saddam ran for president of Iraq ? He got 99.9 % of the vote ! I would guess about 1,000 people were in big trouble ! Then, when Saddam ran a second time....he got 100 % of the votes 90 % that voted YES, voted against going back to the way it was under Saddam. 10% want Saddam to come back. If 20% of the minority is Sunni, ..only half of them wanted Sadam to return and bring back the life they once lived That voter result sounds about right to me.

During the Iraq elections last January there were 347 terrorist attacks on voters and polling places. Today there were 13. Link http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/55928561.jpg Caption: TAJI, IRAQ - OCTOBER 15: An Iraqi Sunni Arab shows his inked finger after voting in the constitutional referendum on October 15, 2005. The Sunni area of Taji is a hot bed of the insurgency where resistance fighters helped to organize the poll. (Photo by Ghaith Abdul-Ahad/Getty Images). Sunni goes to the polls http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/55928814.jpg Caption: BAGHDAD, IRAQ: An Iraqi shows in Baghdad a leaflet depicting a donkey voting in front of a figure of Uncle Sam that was distributed by insurgents in the Sunni Muslim city of Mosul, north of Baghdad, 15 October 2005. Slogans on the leaflet reads: "Government of Iraq. Ballot box of the fools, sit in your house and curse the constitution". Voters from across Iraq's ethnic and religious spectrum flocked to cast ballots on the country's new constitution, but their vastly different motivations underlined the deep divisions within the country. AFP PHOTO/MARWAN NAAMANI (Photo credit should read MARWAN NAAMANI/AFP/Getty Images) How many Sunni's voted YES ? From another website; "This Vote Was a Great Blow to the Terrorists" Iraqi reader Haider Ajina emailed the following note about the Iraqi referendum on their new constitution: Greetings All, It seems that a larger percentage of Iraqis voted the constitutional ballot than in the election of January. 65-70%+ are the early numbers. I spoke to my father last night about 8am his time in Nejaf and he said he was going to go vote at 9am. I did not get a hold of my Grand mother and cousins the lines to Baghdad were busy. I called my father gain around 9am my time. He said he had voted (yes for the constitution) and that the turnout was strong and matters were calm. Security in Nejaf was very good indeed he said. There are a number of neighborhood watches and Iraqi security patrols. He has not seen American soldiers patrolling the street in Nejaf for weeks now. His voice was strong and very very happy almost giddy I would say. This vote alone was a great blow to the terrorists in Iraq. This was a great step towards a solid democracy in Iraq. The constitution now guarantees Iraqi’s rights and protects them from their government. The rule of law will prevail stronger now. I no longer fear for my Iraqi family from their government. They now truly hold their destiny in their hands, and they can plan for their future. The security issues are being dealt with on a daily basis and progress in Iraq is measurable and evident. Again the Ajinas in California and in Iraq owe a great thank you to the men and women of the USA (military & civilians) who are making all of this possible. Thank you for all your sacrifices, all your hard work, and your tenacity and vision and thank you for a bright future. Regards Haider Ajina

election photo's from "Iraq the Model" blog not you main stream coverage here; Iraqi election coverage,blogger and links

salim That last post of yours was good and sums up what many americans ( and many around the world ) share and hope for in a new Iraq. I found this article at the al Jazeera website, it is an opinion post; Iraq's federalism ensures justice By Ali al-Awsi Since the establishment of the Iraqi state in 1921, there has been little improvement in democratic conditions for ordinary Iraqi citizens. Successive regimes have failed to get to grips with many issues, the main one being the discrimination among Iraq's regions, and this underlines the need for federalism as a solution to these persistent problems which have left Iraqis living under injustice and discrimination. Iraqis and Arabs alike have been living with values inherited from successive tyrannical regimes which left behind suffocating legacies and robbed the people of their will. That legacy has been based on consolidating the one-man-rule and establishing a climate of fear in which the public is unwilling to accept anything other than the centralised regime. We now have an opportunity to change direction and Iraq needs a new culture that would stop the old values from continuing to flourish. The autocratic rule which started in 1968 - the year the Baath Party assumed power in Iraq - was based on a monopolisation of power to the extent that even local municipalities could not make decisions without the permission of the absolute leader and his ruling party in Baghdad. .... ..... ..... more at the link; http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D05...D01779439AE.htm Another article from Reuters Iraqis vote on new constitution; few attacks By Luke Baker and Waleed Ibrahim BAGHDAD (Reuters) - In unexpected calm, millions of Iraqis voted on Saturday in a referendum on a new constitution that is designed to reshape the country after Saddam Hussein but which many fear may tear it further apart. Insurgents fought gunbattles with Iraqi and U.S. forces in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, but throughout the capital and much of the rest of the country, voting appeared to go smoothly and securely, with polls set to close at 5 p.m. (1400 GMT). ...... .... .... more at the link http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051015/ts_nm/iraq_dc So the situation this weekend in the US may be what is NOT reported. The main stream media LOVES to report death,distruction and carnage over in Iraq. If this weekend, we get heavy coverage of america's pastime (BASEBALL! Four teams left playing for a championship, two teams then face off for the World Series championship ) then... things in Iraq may be looking up ! No reason for our main stream media to report good news hey thats the way it is and at least many of us can see through it. Look, see an example here; Flood reporting in northeastern United States; woman in a boat reports from "flooded street" http://www.drudgereport.com/staged.jpg The link is a picture of a perfect example of Main "Stream" Media making a ->mountain out of a mole hill<- ( that means making a big story out of nothing at all important ) They loved covering and reporting 10,000 dead in New Orleans, many women and children raped seeking shelter in a sports stadium. but none of it was true. they "knew" it had to be true and in short time it would be verified. SO in short, coverage in the US this weekend of the Iraqi election should be the lead stories of every major media outlet and source but I believe what will happen is little word on Oct 15th events in Iraq will be reported because main stream media ( MSM ) wants to report negative news , not positive reporting There is another saying in the US; "No news is good news" this I fully hope happens......if you can understand our twisted media pretzel logic

I see they reversed their decision. They will go back to the original vote procedure. Iraq Reverses Much-Derided Election Change http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051005/ap_on_...aq_constitution I finally saw what they did. It was a foolish idea to change the rule. Now that they have gone back to the original format, They will see the constitution referendum will still pass.